to give you some sense of his history. Born in Japan, in Tokyo, 1943. And lived the first 12 years of his life in the countryside and then moved into the city itself. Up until the age of 29, he lived a so-called normal life. and worked in the industry in an advertising agency until the age of 29, at which time he decided to become a monk. He had, my impression is, he had a favorite uncle that was a priest and spent a lot of time with him as he was growing up. And obviously he had a very positive influence on him. So at the age of 29, his uncle ordained him. lived the first year or two in a, you can tell you more about it, a temple or a monastery, but he spent eight years at AHAG before coming to this country and lived at City Center for a while, Tuscaloosa Park for a while, and right now is a teacher and priest at Kojinon in Oakland.

[01:27]

He's Japanese. He's working on his English. His Japanese is stronger than his English. So he's going to school full time right now. And we're fortunate to have his wife, Yoshi, interpret for him. So, thank you. Good morning, everybody. Good morning. My English is up to here. Today, I am very happy to be able to sit with all of you at the Berkley Zen Center and have a conversation in front of all of you. Today, I want to tell you that Zen is a very mysterious thing, a very difficult thing, and a very secretive thing.

[02:43]

It's not like that. It's not like that. Today, I want to talk about Zen. Many people with misconceptions of Zen and Zen mysteries, something very special, something so amazing to be alive. Do you think that's Zen? And he's going to explain why it's not that way. Thank you for giving me an example. He's going to recite Dōgen Zenji's poem.

[03:51]

It's kind of complicated, but he said there is nothing That intellectual soul, he says that he wants to recite Dōgen Rinpoche's poem to us. He has a poem, so... I will recite it. What is it? Something higher than sky?

[04:54]

Ten wo umu mono. It creates... It creates sky. Sore wa nan darou ka? Sore wa nan darou ka? Chi yori mo atsukute chi wo umu mono. Bigger than Earth and able to hold Earth. Wider than the Universe and yet able to hold the Universe. That should be inside your eyes. That should be inside a piece of grain, right? Well, that's what the poem is about.

[05:54]

Everyone has a universe like that. Everyone has something that makes the sky. It's inside everyone. It's hotter than this Earth. is that there is something that creates the Earth within all of us. Well, that's what he said. And in relation to all of you here, I think Westerners tend to take that guard. So you're saying, people are suggesting, let's take that, the guard, the power. In Zen, in Buddhism, we call it the nature of the Buddha.

[07:16]

In Zen, we call it the nature of the Buddha. He wants to talk with you. What is buddha nature? What is it that Dogen Zenji is By the way, everyone, today, please relax and listen in a comfortable position.

[08:20]

From the top... I want to know the Buddha nature of this country. Something so special, so kind. It's really not like that. It's really simple, natural. It's with us. So just relax. It's simple. By the way, unfortunately I can't speak English yet.

[09:22]

I'm currently studying English. It's good for me to be able to talk about this kind of thing, but I'm asking her to translate it for me. She is my precious English. I don't know if you can speak English, but you go to school. Right now, that's the best thing, the best way to communicate with you. At one point, I found this text in an English textbook. It was written by Timothy Garfee, who became the number one tennis player in the United States. He was the teacher of the class called Inner Game. In his English class, one day, he read an article on a famous tennis player, Timothy Garfield.

[10:48]

He is a very famous tennis player in the United States. He is teaching tennis at a university. In that article, when I was playing tennis, I would always run this way and pick up the ball, and run this way and pick up the ball. During that time, I would try my best to get the ball, and if I made one more mistake, I would have picked up the ball. But when I was serving, if I didn't get the ball, When he plays or practices tennis, he finds the time to be with his mother. He finds peace of his mind. Maybe when he hits that side, then he's always talking to himself, but if I make one more step further, I could receive the ball and hit back.

[12:25]

When I'm serving, if I serve a little sharper this way, I could make a much better serve. Or, oh, the one, maybe sometimes the one that he fails to He kept telling himself, He's constantly talking about fighting with himself, even if he has to play ball. He's tired. You're always looking to yourself.

[13:46]

There's something always telling you to do better. You do better. Always some fighting is going on. At one point, I wondered what it was that I was talking to myself about. Anyway, I wondered what it was that I was saying, that I was doing. One day, he stopped thinking. He was praying himself, but he was analyzing, criticizing himself, always. He said, what is it? Anyway, I am the one who is saying it to myself. I am the one who is saying it to myself, and I am the one who is doing my best to say it. He analyzed himself. He found out himself there were two kinds of self within himself. Self-wanting or no matter what, he reacts on both.

[14:48]

So, if I talk about Garoui-san for too long, I won't be able to talk about Zen. He realized that when he plays tennis, there's always fighting between self-love, too. You have to fight your opponent at the same time. The inner game is to fight within yourself. You have an opponent, and you have to fight him within yourself.

[16:31]

When you think about it, the enemies on the outside are pretty much the same. You're fighting something. And that something can change a lot. It can change a lot depending on the situation. But what doesn't change is that So, it's... himself, he's always... when he faces this, he's self-conscious, self-aware, pointing his fingers all the time, and then there's a point where he has to fight outward, outside the world. It's just like our life. Life is like that, too. However, in our life, outside of the Lama, life is constantly changing.

[17:34]

You understand what I'm saying? Everything is changing. The only thing that really doesn't change is self. Self-love is just the act of going constantly back with our thinking. Self-love is always a way to improve and put aside self. And the other thing I realized is that there is another self that is doing that other than the Self One and the Self Two. I realized there is another self besides Self One and Self Two. Another one is the Two. One can be able to move, one can be able to criticize.

[18:35]

The other self is able to hold all this. Well, I will stop talking about tennis here. If I were to give you another example, if I were to give you an example of what is called Self 1, Self 2, Self 3, You guys quit talking about tennis now. That's just an example. But this is... I want you to remember this. Self-learn is to react, to move, to start thinking something, to be excited, thinking something. So, the human brain, this time the story will change again, but Zen is a bit of a secret. The human brain, if you ask the professor who studies the brain, the human brain consists of these three

[19:39]

It is made up of three stages. The most fundamental part of the human brain is that we are all born and live in this world. One part of the brain is responsible for life. Your bones and your body's function is responsible for basic life. That part of the game is just to give you an example. When a fish, an egg, or a bone, the minute they're born, they just start swimming. And on top of that, on top of that brain, there is a function of living better.

[21:10]

It's not a human being, it's an animal that learns, and by repeating what it learns, it lives. There is a function of living better. So another part of the brain is, Theo is making an example, like an animal and a fish. When they are born, they have life. But then after they are born, they have to survive, so they go through different kind of experience. and try to improve self to survive better and get stronger and bigger. So, through learning, through experiencing.

[22:12]

That part of the brain doesn't have a language or anything to create the energy coming out, but that part is always trying to do something else, right? For example, a crying bird is born in a nest, and its parents feed it, and it grows bigger. Then it learns how to fly by itself, and its parents teach it how to feed the bird. Then it's alive. Part two, brain, two parts, is learning to exchange So there's one part, two parts, two together.

[23:45]

First of all, The history of human beings depends on how much we expand this part 3. I think that's the history of human beings.

[24:58]

I think that's the history of human beings. [...] I think that's He will talk in the brain right now, okay? But do you know that there's also 3, 1, 2, 3? So, if you talk about chemistry, you talk about animals, people's brains.

[25:59]

So, with chemistry, you talk about 1, 2, 3, brain, heart, 1, 2, 3. With 3, don't you think there's something overlap? 自分が一生懸命やってるのにお前下手くそだ お前何だ何もっと練習をしろ なんて言ってるのがセルフ3ですね セルフ3 Self-one and part-three overlap. In other words, it's a world of words. So, he's trying his best to say it.

[27:01]

After listening to it, When I'm training, I do my best to keep track of what I'm doing. But in a real fight, I'm told to shut up and run to the other side. For example, a bird. A bird will cry and say, if there's any food, I'll go and eat it. It's the same with dogs. If there's a smell of beef, they'll be happy to eat it. so you know me so not to know but when I cut it off you still have to tell you how you do not believe it is not the most fun not to know but we are talking about it

[28:02]

Nōmisono ni no bubun ga Temotsui-san no iu, ne? Jibun ga kōyatte tenisu wo shiteru, damatte to nika iware nagara mo shiteru, sore ga jibun de self two to itte wageta. Sono bubun ni sōtō surun darō to iu koto desu. Wakarimasen ka? Nōmisono da ne, two no bubun ga Ah, it's Tegoshi-san's You. That dance... At the beginning, you talked about Part 2 and Part 3 of your brain. What are you talking about now? It's Part 2. The self that is being told. Tegoshi-san is being told. He's being told and he's running and picking up the ball. He doesn't say anything, but he's picking it up anyway. That self, Part 2, if you talk about it in your brain, Self-wonder. But part two of it is a self-wonder.

[29:09]

Two and two. Two, two to two, yes. One, one, three, three. Yeah, you know, right? This is how it comes about. We understand, very clear. Yes, very clear, but this second part, So today, the most important thing is the three.

[30:32]

When we have life, somehow we have vitality. So, at the beginning of the first volume, I published a book called Fat E.T. 's, which you probably don't know about. In fact, Fat E.T. 's, to put it simply, So, during this point, what is it? That, what is it, is also applied to self, one on one. Self-free. We are born in the light, We don't know in the movie what it is, but we live every day.

[31:54]

We suffer. The first part of the brain, the part that controls everything, from the beginning, even before I was born, Before we're born, we have all different kinds of crystals, cells, and all that. So each cell has functions. In Buddhism, especially in Zen, when doing Zazen, I often say that if you have the same attitude and concentration as the universe, you will become one with the universe.

[33:09]

When you are doing zazen, you often say that you become one with the universe. In Zen, we always say you can be one with the universe. That's what we all try to say. Zazen is that kind of self-one-two, or one-two of the brain. Zazen is ideally, if we talk about brain part, brain part three is always thinking, calculating, So let's start this part 3, this research, and try to find out part 1 and 2 more.

[34:37]

What is it? See it, create it. And if we go to the example of Timothy, part 1 and part 2. I'm not saying that part B is negative or anything. What I'm trying to say is that when we sit to find out Basically, you are not depend too much on your brain or mind or language to read it, but to find out more natural, basic of yourself.

[35:59]

Dōgen Zenji-san wa shikan tada to itte, tada suware to iimasu keredo mo, tada suware to iu imi wa, sou iu ichi ni no bubun ni, jibun ga atama wo motteru, san no bubun wo motteru jibun ga I'm sure you're familiar with it. That means that, when we find out how we are concentrated on Part 1, Part 2, just to start thinking about Part 3. You think too much of Part 3 all the time. It's for you. You are normally thinking too much of Part 3. Doing everything with Part 3. You're never able to see Part 1 and Part 2. So, that's the second. For you. So, everyone, if you just think about yourself in Part 3, and make a lot of decisions, sometimes you'll get stuck.

[37:04]

Part three. If you decide on part 3 too much, on calculation, language, or abstract rule, sometimes you skip the rule, or you fall, and then you lose meaning of that one part 3. There's not much meaning. Because calculation, it gives you meaning. But if you go back to part 1 and part 2, somehow, the function, the meaning, and vitality.

[38:10]

And so if you go back to the natural life, it must be that he holds everything, he really looks into it. So, he wants vitality. If you try to see this life cycle with this path, please. I'm running out of time, so I'll end it here. I think it would be really frustrating to talk about it in a translation. I think it would be frustrating to listen to it. Thank you very much. Translator [...]

[39:15]

In the beginning, I thought that in talking about the tennis player, I thought that he was saying that the self-read was the self-read that was able to hold The first self, the reactive self, and the self that was always analyzing. And it seemed like the third... I was beginning to think that the third self would be the one that you were trying to attain, or to come to, in sitting. But now I'm a little confused. No, you're right. You're right. Yeah. That's why, um... Let me give you an example. What do you really remember about self-free? Kiku-sensei, could you say something about Dogen's words to forget, number 3?

[40:38]

That's right. That's what everyone is most confused about. Part 3, the world of the mind. and Dogen Zenji-san wrote a book in volume 95. What I was trying to explain with my head was the way we live in the world of Part 1 and 2. So then it's very interesting that you say forget about Part 3, yet the same story, you know, 95 times all this, but you use Part 3.

[42:06]

So it really contradicts Part 3. Those things we wanted to explain about how important or how nice it is to take part 1 and 2, but people tend to forget that part. So using part 3 and note important for part 1 and 2. So we invent intellectual reasons, all this thinking abstract, which is necessary to be able to see it, but we are. The American people have built this kind of civilization. This is part 3. But part 3 is actually supported by part 1 and 2. Part 1 and 2 are about 70% of the human population. And on top of that, there is a world of about 30% of part 3.

[43:08]

The reason we have this great civilization is because we have Part 3. So we are not denying Part 3, but if we really Understand what is part one, part two. Create and be able to balance out. And if these three things are really well balanced and combined together, we have to practice. In daily life, we have to depend a lot on part three. To put it simply, I would say, put simply, it sounds like maybe Zazen is something magical, something funny.

[44:55]

We don't, he doesn't mean that. What is Part 2? Part 2 is a dog. A world of dogs and cats. Mr. Temoshi is moving like this. He doesn't have to say anything here. He's moving. That's because he's been trained to be able to move like this. He's talking about that world. I don't think about it. Part One is, for example, in the case of Medaka, she was born right away, but she didn't learn anything. I don't want to die, but I want to live like this and get food.

[46:10]

In short, it's already programmed. It's moving with its life.

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