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good morning everyone
ah so it's fair
fourteenth day of november it's a beautiful
crisp clear autumn day in the bay area can you hear me okay
yes okay
i'm
just trying to think what's
what's immediately on my mind is we are still under
in the aftermath of the elections
and ah
some of the news is very encouraging
and
some of it remains concerning and some of it is as yet unsettled
and i think that for the most part
i just want to
stay with that and watch how
my feelings on unfold
ah
for
for this period post election and for variety of other reasons i feel that
all of my emotions are very close to the surface
com
it's very easy to
arrive at tears
ah it's very easy to
ah fall into anxiety
and so i rely on our practice
to sustain me through
just literally day by day
i should say also that i'm really concerned about
ah the pandemic
you know i've been hearing from a number of different
ah relatively reliable sources that
this upsurge
and covered nineteen may in fact not even peak until february
and
that means more months of
this kind of isolation and in fact it means even more careful
ah attention to
ah
the social distancing to to contact and it's hard it's hard to sustain none of us have ah
ever experienced this in our life
it it grieves me
it grieves me for all of the the people who are out of work
ha
for the burden that's been carried by our health and safety workers
ha
hearing from quite a number of an increasing number of buddhist centers that are having to close their doors
ha because they can't afford rent
ha and this concerns me not just for it the dorm up but for
really for our whole world so that's very much on my mind
in the last two days we have done
it seems that we have settled on a date for
a mountain seed ceremony that would install me as abbott of berkeley's and center and that will be a it said now for the
december twenty eighth and itp announcements are going to
go out
and honestly i found it a little shocking to see that to see the draft invitation and to realize that this was
going to be certainly a very large step for myself and for represent center and really not knowing
what that's going to be
you know in the midst of of what is continues to unfold here in our world
so i think i want to talk about that a little bit not about mountain see or about ah
about what the future is because i don't exactly know but i'm how i and how i think we can old
ah
holger will be given and now we can go forward
the couple weeks ago
i've been i was invited to ah
to co-present ha
an evening at san francisco zen center in january with or
a a woman name iowa utan day who's an african american teacher ah
was a new book coming out in december that's our
come black and buddhist
it's really wonderful book ah an i o is somebody that i've worked with at the dubai or chaplaincy ah training program and so we know each other pretty well
and as we were trying to you
figure out what we're gonna talk about what would be what might be useful ah she told me about an image that was new to me
and ha that is the image some of you may know of the ah
this image that comes out of
west africa at the icon tradition and collar sankofa bird
ha and
it's a mythical figure ah
it said come from the up on the tradition in what is now gone up but it's a he was a a region are and an apology that has been around for hundreds and hundreds of years
yeah
the sand cover is ah
sankalpa translates roughly into ah
two sentences it is not due to go back and fetch what you forgot
and so the image of the senco for bird ah solid it's quite stylized and sometimes it's friggin the girl on gonna show you a couple ah let's see here

one of the safest sorry
well
paris

so here's one version of a very highly stylized version and us share the screen on

can you see that
so what you have it's it's beautiful it's like an inverted heart in this image and you have a bird that is flying forward
and usually it's fine forward but you can kind of see i think this discord kind of
is emblematic of of bird's head which is looking back
so so that's that's one image and give you another which is pups
ah

here we go

you can see that right
yes
so i'm here you have a the birds moving forward
and it's looking back and it is
depositing an egg
ah
and the way i think about it is at the egg is
represents vote to pass them the present
that an egg contains the genetic information all the genetic information of the past of it's species
and it also represents the potentiality of the present and future
ah i also
one thing i like about this particular version of the image is that it's really resonate with
the end so
with ms and circle ah it's circular and like many versions of the same circle there's a gap between the two wins in space there ah in that space in the and so also represents potentiality
it represents the fact that
things are not complete
that there's always room for them to change and so ah we have the information we have the tradition we have the past
and carrying it forward there's always the potentiality for to change
so talking with with ios about this she said in summary images
other are
think of a our
the bird is depicted as having one i turn towards the future
and one i turn towards the best
and that seems to me to be
very much what we are
we're sitting with in our in our tradition and were sitting with today
in our world hum
we have this wonderful tradition
this soto zen tradition and the larger registration that we
inherited from
our teacher sojourn roshi
from car his teacher suzuki roshi
and then from this ah
this whole array of ancestors women and men going back theoretically to shock him money buddha
that is that's our tradition that's our past
ah and i are it
and i love it and i feel about a zen tradition as i feel about
and i've spoken to this before as i feel about our music the musical traditions that i
have learned of in the last almost sixty years
ah they are deep and beautiful
an expressive and sustaining
at the same time
ah we need to be aware
that all is not positive in the realm of tradition
the tradition can be ah while it's inclusive
of the immediate community that observes it
it can be exclusive of those who don't
tradition can be conservative it's often conservative it can be oppressive
and
i don't think it's inaccurate to say that
say the oppression of women is traditional
or to say that white supremacy in this country is traditional
that it infuses those things and others infuse all of our relationships in a in a really negative way
and so we have to examine
this notion of tradition very carefully
ah
that applies to all of the
all the elements and institutions of our life but it also applies to ah it applies to our practice or set itself that it needs to be we have this ideas sometimes that
the the practice was somehow pod carved on tablets that were discovered by dogan
and presented to us and that we have to preserve them
ha
i think it's important to remember that ah
even with all the writing
that we have
from dogan century
we don't really have a very good idea of what it was like
to practice in medieval japan
and when we purport
to say that we're doing yoga and practice
ah i would suggest that's an idealization
or that is a
that's something that we need to really look at carefully and see are we doing that
really because
we love the practice we've gotten and often that's the case or we doing it because we're laying claim to some kind of identity
that's a really important question
so
i think if we look at buddhism and we look at sin
just as it again
you know i think about the musical traditions when i took up playing on american vernacular music i listened to all the old recordings i've read everything i listened everything i played with lot of people and then i had the great fortune to be able to ah
play with quite a number of the older musicians ah the people who had made many of those recordings of people from whom have the tradition to whom the tradition had been handed down a not by recordings but by a warm hand to warm hand and they train they transmitted this to
us as best they could
hum
what i found that was interesting
is that
we might we have these recordings we have these writings we have these themes that that lock what we call the tradition in time
but for for those people these musicians in these practitioners they were experimentalists
they were listening to everything they were trying things ha so the
you know it it's very interesting often or in the in the history of a field recording of these
ah adventurous people from often from the north from outside the culture would go down and they would find his old musicians and they would get them to play the old songs
which is fantastic
but left on their own these old musicians were playing everything that was on the jukebox you know they liked everything you know they weren't making these distinctions about what was traditional and what was old tradition it was just all music
and they played it they absorbed it and it was others coming in and tried to name and pinned down the tradition that ah that gave the image of this so-called old-time music that we have i think to some extent we experienced that in them
if we look at suzuki roshi ah he wasn't afraid to experiment the whole
his home
adventure to the us was an enormous and completely creative experiment
when we look at what surgeon has created here in berkeley com we think it's tradition
and what i can see as it adheres to
many of the so-called traditional forms
but in a lot of very very subtle ways sojourn roshi has ah adapted those forms
literally to fit the space of our zendo and the shape of our lives and practice and so that then becomes our idea of traditional
some asking to be careful about this idea of traditional
and
i would suggest i keep coming back and i've been talking about this lot ah asking what is the essence of the past that we can rely on
and
hey return again and again to case fourteen in the blue cliff record
ah which is a dialogue with master a union
in a monk as goodman
what is the teaching of a buddhist whole lifetime
men said an appropriate response
this is a beautiful
ah brick concise the pc
response in and of itself
but what does it mean at represents and are now what does it mean in the time of pandemic what does it mean in each of our lives what is an appropriate response it's not always so clear
and
we may have different
each of us may have different ideas of what's appropriate
how we may not agree

what i think of to me as the spirit of that appropriate is actually
to have this
disagreement
dad have these feelings and still on
recognize the connection that we have with each other
that if it's not about connection
if it's not about turning towards each other
then it's not really about an appropriate practice
how do we love each other
even where we disagree
how do we find a way forward
so how do we like the sant khalsa bird how do we look back
and see what are the principles
that we want to carried forward into the present and presumably into the future ha

i don't know the answer to that and i don't know the answer and i feel for me
the
there's something that i feel strong about but even those things
i prefer to check them out
with
many of you
and that's what i hope to do
in the future ah
because more than at any time
i think
since the founding of represent center we are in a place where where haven't you
we're having both to improvise on the present and we're having to rely on our training
and offer it to people as well as we can without coming face to face
but been this is as close as we get here consume right now for the most part ah
it's remarkable when we crossed paths with each other ah and it's also very natural calm but
we don't know how it's going to be going forward
and yet
i think that we're all committed to the preservation of
the truth that we've learned from suzuki roshi and sojourn ocean and the the things that have surfaced in our own lives
so
i'd really like as i said i really i love this image of a of the sand kupferberg and it's residents with
it's residents with the insult
with the fact that
it's always building on the past
but it's been completely creative an open towards the potentiality ease of the future
so i think maybe i'm going to stop there and
see what what thoughts or what questions you might have ah you know how how do you see what we've been doing how do you see it how do you wanted to go forward in the next
maybe the next year
ah and these are things that i want to know not just today but i want to know going forward ah
and i have to feel i ever responsibly to your responsibility to respond
there is i have the responsibility so ah i'll leave it open and let the blake corn people as ah as you raise your digital or real hands is that okay
good
as some clothes on since he just said please raise your digital hand you can also type a question on precede the question with the question mark and i'll try to get to on and please be direct and succinct with and you're questioning
the the a pregnant person so blake is there a bus on my account here there is okay let me let me try this
thank you very much arm and i will at peter your first up this any better perfect thank you very much i'm sorry i didn't see that and it's either until just now it waned in the middle of your talk but then it came back and now it's great solace or kids here
peter of at you to meet yourself
yes make your own town that was served inspiring her words
it occurs to me even
it was one of the roof while the things that really caught my attention was we need to look back need to figure out how to look back and there's something about the image of the psycho for burger or the same circle where he's the kind of gap between going forward and that
i hope there is no there's no way to go forward without stepping into the unknown right and so do we that while maintaining a connection with eachother seems like it's really really important especially in our kid given circumstance
swiss where we don't have a normal pathways for create nashi
that's a different ones and then let's figure out how to use them
what thank you i think that this experience of the unknown is
i'm sure that many of us have had this experience has were as we're sitting zazen
we come to a space or spaciousness where
for lack of better terms are sense himself seems to dissolve it begins to dissolve and often the reflexive
thing is to clutch for what we know right miss
i richest remember
was so helpful to me percent it was a category roshi during the session
was describing that experience
and what he said was
just fall back into the arms of buddha man
and even as i say it now it's it's really it's deeply emotional to me that that the unknown is not
the unknown can be safe
if a crested
yeah mean perhaps it's not always safe but it it's
maybe less dangerous than we think if we really trusted and just let ourselves fall back into the arms of buddha
oh that's that openness that's the the space the gap in the answer
i have to meet you there i hope so
hassan nathan britain rights or could you discuss the terms form an emptiness with regard to your talk today
emptiness is potentiality
emptiness encompasses everything and so it allows for
ah thanks to arise that are fresh and creative form is what we work with form is our body form is our world an emptiness does not manifest can't manifest in any way except in in the conquer
next to form so think about an egg
an egg is has the emptiness of potentiality but it also you don't know what what's going to arise from that egg whether to chicken taker a human egg you don't have any sense of who that is as they evolve and develop
but it contains all the necessary information
ah on it contains the potentiality and it contains the elements of form so that's may be a start
thank you nathan nick robinson i invite you to meet yourself
hell i need kudzu i gotta see you
i really appreciated your remarks especially at the beginning of your talk when you are very open with us about your own emotions and emotions of fear of grief of can feed a confusion of emotions which i think that many of us are feeling that i
yeah and it seems to me like this something that is not foregrounded in at least the written a part of our tradition very much that the zen teachings as has been passed down to us as we study it
says conceptual ah struggles or a ways out of conceptual struggles are more so than
the emotions and feelings and when i wonder ashley a set of it
i just ask you that if you would come in on that yeah yeah i've heard that you know i think that i've heard that a lot i just i never thought about it that way
i just i really think that that even for suzuki roshi ah
what we've gotten represent your suzuki roshi and zojirushi and i think from the living soto tradition yeah i think the living tradition is really somewhat different than the written tradition or week
gather certain things we this is what i was saying that this about traditional music and you know about traditional music are that that it gets it gets categorized and put into a box and conceptualized whereas the living music and the living xin ye
his breathing
expanding contracting it's of the moment and
all of our living features a very clear that
everything one experience is the manifestation of dharma and so ah not to push anything away but actually to include it and that's i think that's the living tradition
you know the the written tradition
the problem of i have with the written tradition is it it does often appear idealistic in conceptual
but that's not how i feel it
thank you so yeah thank you
very dirty i invite you to meet yourself and ask a question thank you
thank you for this ah rich complexity of tradition and my question really has any two sides to it when is what are the practical on the ground ways that you models
that you know about or can suggest for how we live the tradition with one another how we rely on the dharma
that is a you know the ground under our feet and and not replicate the inequities and inequalities and so for them the past does it at that's one side and the other side is
what do you need from our us as you go through the transition that is unfolding
well i think as to the first from the very beginning
the moment i walked in here
i
there were people that i looked to and
respected and quickly came to admire
and i just watched them
and what i you know one thing that that's really
a strong
ah memory for me is that
he said it was a couple ill was at least a month or two
before i met surgeon who was in japan doing his dharma transmission ah so it wasn't like i had this idealization around him as the teacher it was just the ordinary people who are here
at berkeley cents at your end you know i don't want to embarrass them cause some of them are still here you know our and i really
i just felt like
there was another way to live
and i wanted to live like that and then when we studied the the lineage the reason i wanted to become a priest was
i wanted to be in that family
ah and so that's always been her motivation to me
as for what i might need from the saga
it's hard to say ha
i guess i just love

the trust that
you can always tried to talk to me
there was a try to talk to me hey i want a promise that i'll always be able to listen but even if i'm not listening at that moment
if you try to talk to the i'm not gonna put you out of mind and not going to forget it i'm gonna go back and think about it and i will return to you
if i don't get it you know in that moment i will get back to you that's that's my promise and so what i need is ah
a kind of mutual openness and i'm not gonna put it
i know more clearly than that
the seems pretty clear he can
andrea henderson i invite you to unmute yourself and ask a question
the morning why aren't you
yeah thought is really inspiring and i'm i'm glad that you brought in the a deeper symbols are particularly san from yeah and am i like the comparison you may with the install and the on the opening but when you show the image of the bird i also saw
a baby and i think i've seen that image or lot but i've never saw that within it and i've been listening to quite a few dharma talks and a lot of teachers are talking about this is a time of rebirth that the earth is reverting itself and we are moving into a new world and the old world is dying
away on and you know he talked about trust and i know for myself i am really struggling with on a lot of grief i think that this year i've had what felt more grief that i have ever my alive and i'm you know now as the time
time where l getting a bite to a lot out of the things and i'm just understanding that this pandemic is something and his practice is something that i need to follow my intuition and trusted so i guess my question is you know how can i be like the sake of a barn
and you know we remember you know and then move forward but in the midst of grief and the strong emotions that you talked about early on and talk i'm filling a lot of that to as spending a lot of time on oliver my family but i spent a lot of time you know i'm no i do like discerning when to say
yes to something i went to say know that if we cannot got invited to a
who am a retreat and mount shasta but i had to really sit with the fact that no it's not the best time for me to travel right now even with all of these measures that they have was so so distant thing and the honest truth is that i still need to continue to do what i've been doing for the last eight months but it's not easy
he some
thank you i think we do have to keep i'm i'm very wary about going places myself but you know i have medical problems in but it's a very volatile time ah i think
the most important thing to me is not to be alone
is to be connected in whatever way we can be talking to people to be zooming with them to be taking a carefully socially distance blocks etc that is
it's important to sustain ourselves or not to be isolated ah so they're each of us is carrying our grief our particular grief and we can sustain each other ah rather than feeling like we're carrying it as a single handed burn ah
i think that i think that's really to me that
uppermost i'm so grateful for
to be living here with lori to have good friends in the samba damn good friends in a lot in a number of different realms in the being in constant contact with them and not to feel not to think that i have to be a certain way
but to allow
allow the tears to come
when the grief is arising
and that those tears or her cleansing they're not corrosive
ah
but it is a really hard time it's a really odd time and ah for a variety of reasons and so we knew each other so thank you
i was going to read a sunday else question but since she's raised her hand i invite sandy to are unmoved herself and and ask a question
i i sent it
easton and i would love a specific response so are there any action that busy see that are going toward cultivating a more diverse sanga and also having teachers of color and his early momentum to honor the fact that were all on stolen what during a lonely
land
ah i would like to i want to say yes and i'm thinking about there's certain things i'm thinking about after the new year in terms of her bringing some people in as has speakers and presenters or teachers ah
ah and there
you know there's been a
an ongoing
and
he would try to find our way
towards really
engaging with questions of diversity
ah and to me as i said it's of this is a whole other
ha a whole they're such as to talk it's a whole other endeavor i think that there are there are two aspects of this one aspect
his study and investigation
and that means ah
both engagement with people of color in the saga around what they think is important it also means study for the people of european american backgrounds on what
unseen by as we carry within ourselves
and the third element which is which is which flows from those two
is
developing diversity of leadership and of structures it's a question of policies you know that the changes which have happened in this country have ah basically unfolded from laws and policies and that
it's ah you know if we do this wonderful investigation and we maintain the same leadership structures that look as they do now then what's the point
so ah that's in a long term
fashion that's that's what i'm seeing and if i mean i think it's something that we need to do together
and you're part of that
that specific enough yeah i think you're and i think we got through in the grip of my consciousness right now after the first time is really the fact that we're on stolen land and guess i've been finding my way through that as well so i started paying a land tax and
monthly and some maybe that helps me reconcile or be a little bit less guilty and but i think i think that's kind looking back and honoring where the boundary scan on yeah is honoring that history i agree and i think we need to we to study it more as well i would
summer before last when i drove my daughter to chicago
a christmas was kind of staggering the all country his native land and every place along the way has native names and ah those continue it just as it was on it was kind of
a a beautiful and heartbreaking
awareness so we need to feel that here i agree
thank you
deb self and mandy i invite you to enrich yourself from ask a question
how is on think you and on
oh i'm sorry for the dog barking in the background on
i also really want to thank andrea henderson and sunday for their come out some say that minor a kind of on dovetailing with yours cameras awning goes on to what we want i'm going forward from for the sanga i just want to speak from what i'm realizing i mean
and
for me my i really have been a this has been a time of reckoning for me and i've been studying my own bias studying
raise his arm and structures of okay but recently i started studying my own genealogy more deeply allen and the last week when i've discovered as such as horrifying and the the emotions
i'm having are things that i realize i have pushed away i was raised on a very new south kind of culture like once just eliminate racism and move forward and die what i'm realizing his i have on my family has a lot of blood on its head
sounds of turn his blood it's african blood on i'm sure it's the the blood of many white women who died in childbirth as well
it and i will i want for the zonda is i want to place to sir when those feelings and to take also to be i e know a blameless baby you know falling back into the unknown and dog law
adding my identity dissolve and on having a space that doesn't depend on colonizing am i
other identities and turning to people of color to be ah to sit and reckoning with me i i want us good to be very diverse or wanting to be reflective of our culture and the bay area
at the same time i want to limit my expectations for the people of color should i want them to feel welcome but i don't want them to feel like the onus is on down and what i crave as some kind of ah ah
ah structure a study where we all rock in when the last i as far as we can get back in our history with our families and a place to set with the reality of the culture and the stealing and the murder
i
instead of just being in the pressure on so i would like term
just acknowledge that that's what i'm that's what i'm going through and that's what i would like the whole saga to go through not just like how do i feel right now what is the water my but what are my my biases but what our histories collected boy of peace and reconciliation or not or reconciliation of reparation
process on how i'm going to be turning to you because like james baldwin sad and as esquire article you shouldn't be asking me these questions so i need to ask other white people on for that
a mirror and on accountability thank you
i hear all that
ah i go back to i think there's something so alive about the same cofer bird image
ah the translation
ha
from the a kind languages it is not taboo to go back and fetch what you forgot
so it is not just present moment wonderful moment
that's it's not that that's not true
but the present moment and is also gets to the question of the relative any absolute or form an emptiness the present moment contains
we forgot
it also contains what we never knew but affect us nonetheless
ah so
this sankofa image was totally new to me
i can't a was new then start looking or nuc it's everywhere
you know but i didn't know it and so ah
there's
it's not just about us sharing our practice which is all well and good it's also about learning the
great breadth of human experience and vision that is contained in the whole world of cultures and being able to learn from them and
incorporate them without colonizing them
ah very easy to cause so it is it we do that quite automatically but you can we let it can we let it change us but
not can we are by those those images so maybe grizzly that there for now would thank you
so i wanna take kisses next three or him than that'll be it okay
i see grey yeah
the
that's great
so joe fain please on meet yourself and
fine surgeon a wonderful one on amazon
well i've done that was such a calling him suzuki roshi to so it's a great compliment to take you five hundred as a compliment
okay serve at that so what with a wonderful talk on really helpful on i'm just struck by so the attention on
well like the bird images so wonderful like it seems to me like our ancestors like dogan like suzuki roshi were like so into changing every it really so much of the tradition and that's why that tradition
has been so lives and that's true artistically as well on all these people that are so easily made into a pedestals or something we're all so actively changing everything and so open to all sorts of new stuff and so i was getting to this place where
we're thinking like of the sanyo chi were on you know like you know in the dark there is light but don't see it as line so in the past there was tremendous innovation and looking towards the future and in the president while we
move and has to move and will move towards the future the past is still manifest or something like from us at what's the question i don't know what the question is basically the thing as can you comment on that issue
i'm on that the yet islamic lands to total dynamic working
this is what said this is what goggins as he is core principles that that we think of
in one sense it's stillness but really in our lives is total dynamic working and so we tried and don't lock things down and as stillness don't don't put it into a category that has to be expressed a certain way but record
nice him that everything is is turning and working and is created the universe is creative ha and so few if you cling to the creative principle if you if you
look not clinker of if you look for it
in every aspect of your life then you can stay fresh and i think to me that's the heart of sin
yes yes that's beautiful thank you so much thank you
susan moon i invite you to meet yourself and ask a question
i alan extreme really zu hoch i love the simplicity of the fuck has some of the so clear and then
the pathetic offer bird the music and the stuff about music is great so i end the conversation about diversity has been fantastic thank you all for that especially the for calling us to account for well but i am i quickly go back to a different
the thing that came after me so strongly the beginning of your talk about how long the shut down may continue and how when is are appropriate how do we connect how to reconnect and this just as i was sitting here in the saturday morning talk and zoom this huge huge relief came up or bermuda up and i'm thinking way
i should be standing in the courtyard and the sun bumping into people think somebody over somebody's shoulder i've it for a while going to get some almonds off the table looking over the book table and i love you know me don't have that and we have a tradition that has much sense of place to
i just i appreciate your acknowledgement of the grief and also i just when asked i mean it's really intense as i think about it certain specifically and in that place that i love that place
an average is on stolen land to and we have made it a beautiful place in many ways how do we what do we do with that grief and how do we
acknowledge it without i don't notice where do we go with that i
if it weren't for that place
everyone for our practice and the generosity of suzuki roshi the chin receive have a vision of social roshi and all who came before
we would you and i would not be having this conversation now
and so i experienced gratitude
you know because we have had this because we put in our years here
we're able to sustain our relationships and our connection even if it's not taking the form that we
really wanted to take and i was deep removed on i guess who's two weeks ago there was a gardening day here and a a couple of people showed up
who have been coming since the ah joe's it since the a pandemic
and it turns out they had never been here are really
and so i did a couple people ross and couple of people gave them a tour and showed them around it's like with this place is here we will return to it we're not losing unlike a lot of places which is greater grief to me like taking place in chicago gone
you know ah and quite a number of simulated john emeralds places gone ah we're not about to lose his place ah and so we will be able to return to it but right now we returned to r relationships and will
if and we are forming new relationships even in this virtual world and i i i deeply appreciate and feel really connected to a lot of the new people have come
so when
with grateful that a great turn the grave and gratitude and
yeah to be to be with each other with a sense of place that a different kind of place somehow yeah well thank you thank you so last one is randy
or charlie whichever yeah so ah ah thank you have on and thank you i'm thinking you now for a and rounders book and you start your tour
ah talking about anxiety and political uncertainty and that made me think of the chapter of his book entitled who is the enemy
and i would just i won't read it or explain it but i will just refer you to that chapter it would be on page thirty four of his forty five page butter and have to look for look for it again but yeah i mean i don't i do not have a question i just
run it i just want to say about go sunanda so i spoke about him a couple weeks ago he was a the
cambodia left after the ah after the khmer rouge really murdered almost all the monastics one thing it is he led a dhaba yatra dharma walk in across cambodia he lived there for about ten years and
it's early in the walks this the fighting was still going on and they got caught in crossfire oh and actually two people to japanese monks were killed and at another time some friends of mine were captured by the khmer rouge on these darmo walks
and when they were captured ah
go sunanda with to their camp
and
ah
they were so respectful of him they release these people into his care
he did not see them he did not treat them as enemies they did that feel like they were treated as enemies and so he was able to accomplish something that save lives
so that's a very high bar for for us to to reach forward but ah it's all there in our practice it's all there in the potential of our practice when i'm gonna take it back i'm just gonna a read a portion of it against the duo had been
no reinforce a lot of are thinking
but it ended up
oh
the wholesome minded must be included the unwholesome mind and must be included because they are the ones who need loving kindness the the most in many of them the siege of goodness and die because of warmth was low
lacking in their growth
the perished from coal was in a world without compassion
thank you charlie and thank you everyone have a good