heavenly books, they want us to be good servants. Can you hear in the back? Hodgepodge, can you hear? What is hodgepodge? It is a... Ah, this is better. Hodgepodge, if you are Hungarian, means hello in Hungarian. Who is Hungarian? No one? Yes, he is Hungarian. And Kesselnamu is the answer, means I'm fine, thank you. Love and respect and to be good servants, servanthood. All holy books teaching to be good servants and to do the best with each other. to do the best with each other.

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But mostly people now finding so much, no one is looking for connections saying, I am like you, we have the same belief, we have the same family, we are the same country. Mostly people are looking for enjoyment, physical enjoyment. Most of the people their targeting, their main target is physical enjoyment. Aiming at that, how to get to that physical enjoyment and mostly they know that this happiness, which is different than the material, But they are saying that if you get much more money then you can fulfill all your enjoyment. So everybody is competing to get more money to fulfill their physical enjoyment.

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Thinking that if they get all this money then they'll be happy because they can buy anything they like and they can enjoy and fulfill joy. But enjoyment is not something materialistic. It doesn't have any connection with the money. The material world doesn't have connection with the happiness. And so many people, one millionaire one, not millionaire in the Moroccan money, millionaire in dollars. Because Moroccan money, millionaire means million pennies. Millionaires in euros or in dollars or in pounds was not happy with all the money they have.

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One person passed, he was unhappy because One day he saw another millionaire. He said, how come that one is like me? Maybe that one has more money than me. How can I bring that one down? As soon as that thought comes in, they start living an unhappy life. It's a characteristic sometimes that that comes from shaytan teaching envious, jealousy. You are jealous somebody is getting more than you. And that makes people to be unhappy. So, happiness is not really coming from that point. There is a Prophet saying, he said that, al-qana'atu kanzun la yafna' means contentment is a treasure that is endless.

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To be content is a treasure that doesn't have any end. Contentment. And most people, unfortunately, not content within themselves. Whenever we go visit Morocco, then I go the place where a lot of Moroccans are walking, just to look at them. Just when he was telling me this morning, Alan Sanuki, Shaykh Alan Sanuki, He said he loves New York. Why? Because people from all over the world and he walks, how many blocks he walked? 3, 4, 5 blocks and he feels all these people there and he loves them. So when I go to Morocco I do the same thing. So I walk in Casablanca and on the sidewalk you see, I see this person putting on a cardboard. Cardboard. cut the cardboard, put in.

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And all his capital, he's putting his capital of what he owns there to sell for people that are pedestrian, walking. He's putting this cardboard and on it he has gillette. You know gillette? The one that's like this, you open like that. Two shape, gillette. Gillette, nails, long nails, Swiss, old Swiss knife, rusty. Some little that he put like this. Creme, small creme ones. Empty bottles, just empty bottles. You can use them. And he has keys. Bunch of keys is put in there. An empty shoe polish can is put in there and selling.

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This stuff you can find in the garbage here. Garbage that he is putting there. How are you? How are you selling? Alhamdulillah I am happy for this what he is selling. He sells only to eat for that day. But you look at their face, happy! Who is here in America can do something like that and be content? Who? Contentment? No one is content. Everybody wants more, more. Or they have a house, we need to build another room on top. Even though they are one person Two persons sleeping only in small like this, big house. And on TV they incite people to have more, they call it cribs. One person looking big house underneath, on top, on top, cars everywhere. Yet they're not content. So contentment, to be content, to be satisfied,

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is something else. That's why it is a treasure. Not anyone can be that content. Contentment. And we are asking Allah to make us content. Allah is not something that is we can pinpoint or scientifically found Allah. Behind the stars you see darkness and if you remove the stars And you look, you might not see anything. So there is something not known. We call it hu. Hu means not known. Hu also means in Arabic language huwa, or you say he, someone not here. Like we say mill, he is in Hawaii. He is not here. But we cannot say the same thing about Allah. We can't say He is not here.

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Allah says I am closer to you than your jugular vein. I am with you everywhere. It means He is unknown. So we can't point what it is. So behind those stars we say unknown, Allah. And then the stars are attributes shining showing sign there is Allah behind and know those stars. And then actions that we are doing is Allah's activities. Not everyone look at the stars and know who they are. You say this is the pole star, this one is the bear, this one is north, this one is all these signs. The big dipper, the small dipper, But not everyone knows those stars. Some people know them. And those that are with Allah, they may see people as stars.

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They may know their names because they know. They see their lights, that one, that one, that one. If everyone is a sign, a star from Allah, shining. And Allah ﷻ created us and created time and space and moment. And every moment there is beginning and ending. We enter from that place and we are here and then we end this and we come out. All that has to be in its own time. Can't be forward one second or back cord one second. Everything exactly how it's supposed to be. Even when we look at rain falling down, it looks like chaos but it is not. Each rain or each drop is falling precisely where it's supposed to be.

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For Allah everything is precise, there is no chaos. And every drop doesn't separate or disappear until it goes to its destiny. Because in every drop inside there is an angel carrying it. When he carries it down other angels take care of the drop and take it to its destiny. But our eyes are not seeing this. Everything is programmed in one side. It seems like there is something spontaneous but to Allah nothing is spontaneous. Everything is just how it's supposed to be. Therefore we say la ilaha illa Allah. If we can program a TV with a TV guide and say one week ahead, you look at the newspaper, they give you the TV, what's going to play, whole week.

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Even we didn't live that week, it stays. Everything is there. We human being can do that. What do you think about Allah? Who created this intelligence? If we can program, Allah has a master program. And in it, He programs everything. and program people to follow their desires. Therefore we are Muslims, Christian, Buddhism, agnostic. Every creation you can imagine Allah create and give everyone what they like. That is servanthood in the highest level. Most biggest servant is Allah. Serves everyone. You want to sit for 2 hours and be Buddhist? He gives you the room, the space, the teachers, everything. You want to be Muslim, He gives you Muslims. You want to be terrorist, He gives you terrorists. Anything you like, anything you like, He gives.

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And all that for Allah, is like when you watch TV and they say that sound, this is test. Testing. This whole life to Allah is test, pop and finish quickly. All of that. So this is a testing for us and an honour also to be a representative of that unknown one that we call Who. So it is correct not to dwell or delve in that unknown. Its essence, you cannot know the essence but we know the attributes and the names. So that's point to that sign. And not to dwell in it is important. Prophet said, don't dwell in the essence of Allah. Don't start looking what is Allah, how He looks like.

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No. Instead, try to be good to each other and know that Allah is there but do not start checking what is Allah. It's beyond mind conception. Therefore, you should leave it alone. So, so many people in their search they think that if I cannot see Allah, He doesn't exist. But Allah saying you cannot, blade of grass cannot carry the Himalaya mountain. How blade of grass saying I want to carry the Himalaya on my back? It's not possible like this. Allah is beyond that still. Angels are existing in many different forms. Some are very, very macroscopic or beyond macroscopic.

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They are light and intelligence. And some are beyond the opposite. How do you say, huge? Or micro? Not micro. Macro. Macro. Angel Gabriel was sent by Allah to bring a message to an angel that is micro angel. And Angel Gabriel had 600 wings. And those 600 wings, you fly with two for 10,000 years, he rests. And he brings another two, flies with them 10,000 years, he rests. Like that. In a place that doesn't have time, but we give it an estimate. So he fly, fly, fly for so long to meet another angel. Now 600 wings and one little feather from the from the wing of Angel Gabriel.

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Like those pillows that we like to sleep on or that. It's made from these feathers that are very light. Down, down. You know down one? sometimes very small one. If one down from his feather you put on the Everest, it crushes it completely. And that one was flying with 600 wings getting a message to another angel in this universe. When he arrived to this angel he said, O Allah He sent me to talk to you. The other angel could not hear him. He said, O Angel Gabriel sit in my hand and he sat here and then he put him in his ear. He said, now speak inside there so I can hear you. Those only are creation of Allah, only creation. We go to Yusamiti, we see this, we should be... Ah, what is creation?

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Yet people they want to dismiss and say there is no Allah. They exist. It is unknown in its essence. So if Angel Gabriel was so huge like this, what about us? Who are we? Nothing. May Allah forgive us. That give us humility to be humble. When the Ark of Noah was going, Allah asked the mountains, all mountains I'm going to put a boat on you. And all the mountains they rise up, I'm gonna be the one. Except one, said I am too small, I don't think boat and prophets going to be on me. I don't think I am I am worth it. Allah chose that one. He said, because you are humble, I am putting the boat on you.

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It's called the Judah mountain. To be humility and humbleness. I think the discipline of Buddhism teaches that. That works with your inside, with your nafs, with your ego. The Sufism also work with that. There we have a meeting. Our stories lead us at the end to be a good person and to be good characteristic with yourself. But there is what we call jihad that's been misdirected. Mostly they think jihad means to kill others. You have to protect, oppression. But the biggest jihad is the jihad al-nafs, to struggle with your inside. That is the real war. War is happening within ourselves. When the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him and peace be upon all the Prophets, he had a war against other ones who didn't like his teaching.

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And when they came back, it was summer, it was hot and they were tired and he told the companion, welcome from the big struggle from the small struggle to the big struggle. From small jihad to bigger jihad. He said, is there any bigger jihad than what we've been through? We've been wounded, we have all these wounds. He said, no, that's a small struggle. He said, the biggest one is within yourself. So he called that one big one. And we have to watch and that's why the discipline of Buddhism is good because you are watching yourself be conscious of what your behaviours are. It's easy when you are with a group, everybody influence everybody and everybody can keep everybody in touch. But when you drive, when you are by yourself, that's where the work starts. If you drive by yourself and somebody just surprise you and walk in front of you or did something, what is the word that comes from you involuntarily?

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That is the essence of what you learn. If you say F word, finish. All this teaching means nothing. Yeah, all the hours of sitting, nothing. If somebody pass in front of you and say Allah, that's good. Because Allah made that one and time that one to do that, to see what you're going to do. Because everything is programmed. Do we have free will or everything is programmed? Both. You have two legs. If you put one leg up, that's free will. Can you put the other leg up? You can't. That's programmed. So your legs are like this. Put one leg up, there. Can you put the other one up? You can't. Because you're standing on it. If you pull it up, you fall. So, program here, free will here, together.

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And Allah, Allah created both of them. He created free will and programs, together, in one shot. So, there is program and there is free will. Just remember your leg. Both of them as part of Allah's destinies. And sometimes, I was driving one time on Martin Luther King, going toward crossing Edison by Berkeley High, going toward University. I was by myself, but I was driving and my ego was taking over. I was thinking I'm a big shot. I was driving and there is some orange cones saying that this lane on the right must merge. Everything becomes one lane. I was going like this, but this lady in front of me, I am on the left and she's on the right.

[22:54]

She has to go on the left. She just went on the left in front of me. I was surprised because she just did it. I didn't like that. I want her to give a signal, like this, like this, and beg me, can I go in front of you? Can I go in front of you, please? You know, there is a discussion without words. I didn't like she didn't blink and she didn't ask permission. She just went in front of me. I was upset. Why? Because I was a very important person at that time. I was very important. So to punish her, I honked on my car. Not just little teeth like that. No, I wanted to know. So I put my hand on the horn and I let out quite a long one. Like... There!

[23:57]

Now you get it. And she was, you know, horns outside the car is different than inside. Outside you hear it much more powerful. So she was like that. She didn't know. I was going to tell her, you know, you can't just go in front of me. Wait for somebody else to give you, not me. That was the discussion inside of me. And then when she came to Addison, she made a right and I was going straight. When she went on the right, she opened her window and she gives me her finger. I'm from Morocco, I'm not used to that finger. It doesn't mean anything to me. So what does this finger mean? It's nothing. But it's supposed to make people upset. So that happens so quickly. After I pass, then I start what you do, meditation or checking myself.

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My behavior, this is not the behavior of person who claim to be leading a mosque and praying. What kind of behavior is this? No patience. I'm asking for my way. I was... I also give her my finger. How to respond? And just let her go like that. So we give each other's fingers. It didn't upset me because we're not used to it in Morocco. If in Morocco you go like this, they say, what does that mean? It doesn't mean anything. But for Americans it's a big problem. I start thinking about these gestures that doesn't have any words. It's a physical movement that makes people unhappy. He said, why do Americans are unhappy about a gesture like that? What makes them unhappy? I was looking for solutions and I was thinking that at that time inside my car I'm finding, because the ego has, I mean it's all one but they divided in Sufism to seven levels.

[26:14]

And the first level is called the An-Nafs-ul-Ammarah, the ego that is ordering you to do bad. That's the first level. We call it here two years old tantrum. What do you call that? Terrible tooth. The first ego is called terrible tooth. Second ego is called the blaming ego. When you pass the When he passed the terrible truth, you start saying, I should not have done that. I should blame him. So I start blaming myself for the horn and for my finger that I did. I start blaming myself. After the second ego, which is the blaming ego, you go to the third one, the inspiring ego. You start having inspirations, how to correct these things. So I pass through these egos right away, from one to the other one. The ordering ego, you cannot think, you just respond and you just do it, without any reflections. That's the word. The second one, I reflect and I blame him.

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It's called the blaming ego. The third one, inspiration, ilham, al-nafsu al-mulham. I said, oh, what an inspiration I had. The inspiration I had is if this gesture is making people unhappy, American people should have a day special. We normally have Father's Day, Mother's Day, Valentine Day. We can have a day called Finger Day. Finger Day, you wake up in the morning, first person you see, you give them fingers. And in the evening, you have kids going from house to house. They say, finger or else? And then you give them these cookies, finger ladies. You have to have those cookies. If you don't have them, they give you the finger. And then all the Costco and the shops and the stores, they have postcards with the finger on it.

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So if you're upset with your boss, you can send, I'm sending you a finger day postcards. So you can get this negativity out. After you finish that finger day, it should be on Tuesday. You finish finger day, holiday, it should be completely American holiday, everywhere. Like Halloween. Halloween. Like Halloween. I like Halloween. Because people come to the door and I see the kids, they look at me like that. They say, are you Jafar? I say, who are you? They say, I am Batman. At least kids, they look at you, they communicate. It's nice. So we can add now finger day with kids going around from house to house. They say fingers or else. And you give them those lady finger cookies. have postcards, all the business with it that goes around it because Americans, they like business. You get all your finger negativity out.

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When that is finished, anybody giving you fingers after that, you say, you're off. We had it last week. It is finished. There's no finger day anymore. then nobody will be upset anymore. That is my inspiration ego, showing me all that is in my head. I went from the ordering ego to the blaming ego to inspiration ego. That is when we forget, when we are not reflective. So discipline to give you The bottom line for whole discipline is to be able to deal when you are alone in those positions. If you're alone and you're praying in a place and everything, it's fine. And then when you go out, you act crazy. This work doesn't mean anything. Someone can be in a cave praying for so long. Praying, praying, praying, prostrations, fasting, doing with the beads.

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And then they finish, they take the airplane and the steward lady said, oh welcome. He looks, finish. He looks at that beautiful lady, he desires go back. All that cave means nothing. It's better to to have the discipline in between, not extreme, that can work with you during the day. to keep remembering or remembrance, reflections and that's the discipline. That in Islam we have before you drive, you have to have prayers. You cannot just come and drive. That triggers the memory that you are with Allah. And that anything that happened, you should accept it is from Allah's program. Once you are in that field, you are happy. Even if you go like this, you say, I'm going to go from point A to point B, this direction.

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And one person said, no, [...] it's shortcut. If you take this, like this, freeway here, you go here, you arrive here half hour earlier. You are happy. You go there, you find the road construction and you find big bumper to bumper. because that person said like this, since you don't know the future, now you're stuck. How you gonna leave those moments there? Either you can live in hell waiting to get to that place or you can live in heaven playing more music and relaxing and said, I am right where I supposed to be. I am in this program, I am right where I am supposed to be. May Allah bless you and forgive me. Thank you. Salam alaykum. I'd like to share with you a song. It's called, we can do harmony with the song, because I made the song not to be too much Middle Eastern melodies, because in Middle Eastern melodies, you only play the piano, there's those cracks, we play in the cracks.

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The cracks are notes, but they don't have the cracks. here, so I am making the songs to be close to no cracks, so you can sing it. And it's La ilaha illa Allah, La ilaha illa Allah. La means no. And Islam is built on that word. If you want to enter Islam, you have to say no. Don't say yes. Start with no. And no is more important than yes. Because if you say no, you have room to say yes. If you say yes, you can say no later. They say, you said yes, here. You promised someone something or dinner or something. If you say yes, you don't appear. Oh, they have you in the calendar. You said yes, here. Look, I wrote it down. You wasted my time. Now I have problem. I'm going to sue you. Where is my lawyer? So la ilaha, means nothing is real.

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No reality here. This appearance we are here today, hundred years ago we were not here. And hundred years from today we are not gonna be here. Means we are not real. We are less real, you will say. Only Allah is real. Because anything that is real must stay. It never should disappear. But we disappear. We appear and disappear. Everything appear and disappear. And only reality is Allah, that unknown one. So we say la ilaha illa Allah, nothing real but that reality. That's all, the song is just simple like that. La ilaha illa Allah [...]

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La ilaha illa Allah, la huma salli ala Mustafa lau ma salli ala al Mustafa lau ma salli ala al Mustafa lau ma salli ala al Mustafa la ilaha illa Allah la ilaha illa Allah la ilaha illa Allah La ilaha illallah, la ilaha illallah, la ilaha illallah. La ilaha illa Allah La ilaha illa Allah

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La ilaha illa Allah, Allahumma salli wa sallim ala Sayyidina, Sayyidina Muhammad, Shafi'ummatu, Shafi'ummatu Habibina Muhammad, Shafi'ummatu Habibina Muhammad. La ilaha illa Allah, La ilaha illa Allah, Allah. La ilaha illa Allah. Ya Jadd al-Husnain, Ya Abu Fatima, Yawm al-Mi'adah, Sama Ahmed, Sama Ahmed, wa fil ardi Muhammad, Allahumma salli wa sallim alayh. La ilaha illallah, [...]

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illa Allah, la ilaha illa Allah. Would you like to take some questions for a few minutes? Only about... Yes. It's around 11 so maybe about 5-6 minutes. It's hard to come back to the cracks. La ilaha illa Allah, la ilaha illa Allah

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La ilaha illa Allah, La ilaha illa Allah [...] Try it. La ilaha illa Allah La ilaha illa Allah La ilaha illa Allah La ilaha illa Allah Lahumma salli wa sallim wa barik alihi Lahumma salli wa sallim wa barik alihi wa ala alihi wa sahbihi La ilaha illa Allah La ilaha illa Allah La ilaha illa Allah, la ilaha illa Allah.

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I want to thank you for coming here. I'm sorry I'm asking a serious question. I see a lot of similarity between Buddhists and Muslims. I'm Muslim myself. I do feel the same way. We feel that the war is inside of us. And I see that in Muslims, the individuals. And then when I go to Middle East or healing program, and the laws in Muslim that is a basic for family, right from family, and having men, many women, who haven't seen it. I want to see if Muslims keep that practice, how we can see the mothers be unhappy to have to have a husband, many women, and it's okay.

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Divorcing is okay. In this culture, men, they have other women. But in Muslim, no, you cannot. It's by law, and you have to respect to that woman also. You have to have everything you have made to give to the other woman also. And then that woman even sometimes is more respectful than the previous woman. See, this is a big thing in Islam. And I want to speak out because we don't want to play a game that Islam is, you know, We are becoming one, we are bringing that unity. We have to look at the universe, how the universe is respecting the individuals. Islam, in this part, that men can have several women, that destroys the family, destroys the children, destroys the whole universe.

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too much time, but this is very, very serious. Very serious. If Islam doesn't look at this serious question, it's a prevention, this is the basic. If we want to see peace in the universe, in this whole planet, we have to look at the basic, the family, the children. And that's our mission in Islam. And you are doing the Sufism, I really, I have a lot of respect because I'm Muslim, and so there is a space there that we can speak out, and I'm a part of myself suffering from that, living in the United States for 30 years, but we can use, we can abuse the law in the United States and in the Middle East to create that dirty law What do you think?

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You have a mosque here. What is your mission here? What did she say? What is your mission here at your mosque? Are you from Iran? I'm from Iran. Okay, so you grew up in Islamic, which is 20% of the whole mass of Muslims. because Shia is different than the other one in one way. But universal laws, I'm going to give you an example. Islam wants respect for mankind. And respect is not to put somebody's honor down. When the news, when it talks about, you're talking about men marrying more than one, which is allowed in Islam, up to four.

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But you can, after that the verse said, but you cannot be just with them. You can never be just with them, so one is enough. So there's the rest of the verse. Muslims can do what they do, but we're looking at the book, what is the book saying? We have, we cannot say because you are Muslim you have to be good. There is bad Muslims. Muslims are something, Islam is something else. Let's say Clinton. What happened to Clinton? Everybody knows what happened to Clinton. Now if Clinton who can afford to have more than one wife. If he said to Monica Lewinsky, I cannot touch you unless we are married and let's assume he was Muslim.

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Let's assume. He can afford. And He married her. No one can say, what are you doing with her? Why are you doing this? She is his wife. That saves his honor and her honor. That is what Islam likes to do. It saves people's honor and respect. Not everyone can afford to marry more than one. But Clinton can. He had the money. He can buy a house for her. To save the faces. Islam covers a universal law. It doesn't say this. It said it's talking to a mass of people. How many people on earth? Billions. We are not like a company cookie cutter. Everyone is the same. Not all of us are like Clinton. But Clinton had a case.

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That case, how much money was spent and how much dishonor went for both of them. How would you save that situation? Islam likes to cover on that. It talks to de-Clintons and similar people, and it talks to the masses, and it covers all that. It said, it didn't say marry four to men, it said, in marriage, a man can have up to four. Who can have up to four? The Clinton kind of people, That's why it doesn't dishonor anyone. If you're going to do more, you better be just with all of them. And the verse says right after that, and you can never be just with them. But people, they don't read that verse. You can never be just with them. So one is enough. That's what it says. You have to read it. What Muslims do is something, what the Quran says is something else.

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You cannot take what people do and say this is what Muslims do. There was a khalifa Umar, not Umar the prophet's companion, another one. He created these laws that they have nothing to do with Islam. A lot of people they think that's what Islam teaches. This is not what Islam teaches. Islam is to preserve people's dignity and honour. So, We cannot misunderstand what the verse is saying. Anyone may look at the Qur'an verse and read it carefully. He must see. It doesn't say what people are doing. Our Muslims that are not well read or don't understand may abuse that. It doesn't mean Qur'an is wrong. They are wrong. They should be punished for that. In Morocco now The new law in Morocco from the King Hassan II, the 6th.

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He said, anyone wants to marry another wife, the first wife must accept. If she doesn't want to, it cannot be done. So that's the new law they do this. Yes, but what happened to that woman? If she doesn't allow the husband to marry the other woman, you know what's gonna happen? The husband can take everything from her, the children, the house, and everything. No. Not in, maybe in Iran. Not in, no. In Morocco you cannot do that. Saudi Arabia, you cannot do that. That is, that is, this is oppression, and oppression is against Islam. You cannot, what kind of man can do this except a man that is not good? No, I mean, in divorce this type of thing doesn't, you know. It just, it's serious. That's what I hear in Iran. Everybody is sampling Clinton. I know. To save honor and dignity of people, you have to know the masses of people. Not everybody is the same levels. We can come to this in more detail.

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Yes, I just need some water, I didn't dry up. Allah, Alhamdulillah. People they're going to do wrong and they're going to do good and that's why there is Judgment Day. You have to believe there is a judgment day when Allah is going to take the people to say judgment. So, don't think Allah is sleeping and when he wakes up, oh, this one married more than one, how this one come here? Don't think Allah sleeping and then wakes up, ah, Bush is president, who put him there? Allah put him there. Bush represent the people. People wants bush, he gives them bush. They are calling to our belief. We don't say Allah does only good and he cannot do bad.

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We say Allah created bad and good. Both of them. So, and at the end those who do bad will do more bad because badness attracts each other. Those who do good will do more good. Goodness attracts each other. I'm not worried what the bad people are doing. I'll speak against that. And if I see something being oppressed, I will speak against that. I never seen my father say, ah, to my mother. Why do you do that? I never heard this. My mother is happy with my father. I take good example. I've seen bad examples, but I cannot take the bad example as a measuring and measure Islam with this. That example means all those people are like that. No. These are maybe small examples of badness that exist. We cannot say McVeigh represents all Americans. Or we can't say those people dropping bombs are all these Americans. I cannot do that. Let's continue outside.

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We continue outside.

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