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either begin with them
an offering or since at the altar is not accessible maybe just three bows no

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good morning everyone
i'm sorry by altar is not accessible i've tried to make this the screen does kind of funky screen as a as a neutral background palm so don't have to get up into the crawl around it
the surgeon roshi was scheduled to be the speaker ah this morning and i got a call late in the evening ah yesterday a asking me to give the top because he wasn't feeling well i hadn't been feeling well all day yesterday so ah
i will give their talking and tell you a bit about ah what will be going on what has been going on here at berkeley's and center and leaving good time for questions and answers but i thought i would start
it with of a piece of a talk that suzuki roshi gave
in august of ah
nineteen seventy one in late august of nineteen seventy one and so on
what does that forty nine years ago com and at that point
you know he was up
four months or so or a little less three month three four months from ah from his passing and so he was
certainly experiencing his illness
ah but he was also full of life ah as you can read the transcript i've i've entered out edited out the places where ah it says laughs are laughing but ah that there was a lot of that interjected in the in the talk
so on
this is one of the lectures on the sand okay i believe but i'm a just exerted it
someone someone falls to earth someone falls on the earth maybe by stumbling over a stone
somebody someone who falls on the earth maybe by stumbling on of stone will stand up by the same earth
because of the earth you stumble and fall
earth is the problem you think
because the problem you may get hurt
and because of the earth you can support yourself again and can stand up
so you complain because you think it is the earth and the stones fault that you've fallen
without the earth you will not fall
and without the earth you cannot stand up
falling and standing up our gift given to you by the earth
so a problem itself
is your mother
because of mother earth you can continue your practice
the problems are actually your zendo
or maybe the problems of your zoom
ha problems are actually your zendo
that is very true
so what is delusion
and what is enlightenment
when you are deluded about the earth's true nature
that is delusion
when you're enlightened about the earth that is enlightenment
when you stand up by the earth
that is enlightenment
when you fall and you blame the earth
that is delusion
so we have a chance to attain a great enlightenment
when we have a problem
how our way is not to get rid of all the stones on earth
which could be stumbling stones for you
it is good to have many stones on the earth which could be stumbling stones
when you stand up
if you have a big stone near it may be easier to stand up
it's very good for your practice tab big stones everywhere
no problem we have we have plenty of those hum
here for instance is a stone i meant to bring the song but of course they've forgotten hearts if you understand it that is you know enlightenment
if you don't understand it then you could have a painful fall
so if there are not many stones to help your practice
we may have to bring many stones from tassajara to the xander
fortunately we actually don't have to worry about that because we all have ah stones in our in our path ah pan to actually
what we need to do is to pay attention
now look where you're stepping
do be mindful
so this mind of enlightenment
the token centuries faster goal gotta go you didn't you
he talks about the mind of enlightenment which is also conventionally in in ah in sanskrit known as bodhicitta
and dogan says the mind of enlightenment
he's the mind that season to the nature of impermanence

so we're in a time
of impermanence a time of many stones
it's relieved
it's just one difficulties once stone to stumble on have to another
and can't right now i don't have to enumerate them for you because we're all we're all living them
hair and tar it's a good thing that we're paying attention because these were many of them were not stones that we saw a coming
yeah so if we're looking you know towards the horizon or towards the goal then probably we're going to stumble
but really are practice the practice of zazen is too
instruct us in how to pay attention
step by step stone by stone
breath by breath
so we also we have many problems many stones which are also many opportunities
but these are not all opportunities that we
certainly not opportunities that we asked for
or wanted
greet with joy perhaps harm
can't i think that one of the situations which we haven't spoken to ah
he's really it's the circumstance of this talk
you know it's the circumstance of our teachers illness
which has been unfolding for
i'm now thirteen months
from last september when we were at
casa heroin ah he was working on dharma transmission send ah
had an episode that was diagnosed as ah beginnings of a bile duct cancer
and so that was fully diagnosed
they begin and they had an intervention they had began with with treatment and now here we are
ah thirteen months later
and it's not an entirely clear that the
the discomfort that sojourn roshi is experiencing is a an artifact of the treatment or an artifact of the illness but the fact is that ah
the nature of impermanence is unfolding
i i think all of us her
we not welcome that as a gift
it's actually or practice is to figure out
how to
how to included how to fold it into our saas in
in our life so that
it can
serve us and serve authentic pigs and i know
that this is what first saw this is what sodium she has tried to do for himself
and it is what he wants for us
and i i know that he wanted wholeheartedly
there was not there is nothing that would be
more important to him than to
since that
we are really embody
that listen
now it's also true that you know ah i think quite a few of you were at the hub
on thursday
i wasn't there but i gather that ah that he was wonderful and alive and and vibrant and this is what this is what the dharma serves for him it really ah in those moments he gathers everything that is best that we that we try
truly love about him
but that's not necessarily an energy that he could sustain
through all of the days
so we are entering this period
and if it's it's hard
you know if it's a gift
it's a gift nobody asked for
and it's a gift that we can't give away
so a difficult gift
and that difficult gift may be very valuable

so many stones in there are many stones ahead we have to watch very carefully
so some of you probably maybe a lot of you actually received a notification this morning in the email
ah that
on the twenty fourth of october which is two weeks from today how
there'll be a ceremony
kim which sojourn roshi will step down as the abbot of berkeley's and center
and he will also car
he has expressed his willingness to accept a new position which will be given to him at the same time that he stepped down the position of our founding dharma teacher
and we hope that that you can attend that i'm gonna put all of the gonna give you a bunch of data them that are put off in the chat you have drive from you're speaking
ah this is
a remarkable moment a difficult moment a moment to for
celebration and for grief simultaneously how do we hold those two things at once
this is that the heart of our practice the heart of our practices to be able to hold in our hearts and minds to things that are seemingly
at one time to hold ambiguity to whole ambivalence to hold
yes and no
to hold like and dislike
at the same time as part of one reality
a hand
not and somehow not to let one side interfere with the other
not to let the grief
interfere with our gratitude and celebration
and in our gratitude in celebration
not to pretend that grief is absent
so we will celebrate that on the on the twenty fourth
how and by the way they will be no sushi in day with we've rescheduled everything because we believe in impermanence ah so ah
it seems like this is important to do we really wanted sojourn roshi to be ah to be able to enter that ceremony wholeheartedly and and and physically ah and he was fine totally agree to that
next week
ah to less the seventies ah we will celebrate ah the occasion of certain roshi offering a priest ordination
two kicker susan hill lane
ah who has been is close to the for quite awhile and ah this is something that all of us really wanna to ah seem to be able to do and so that will take place also at at three o'clock on our
next saturday we will have a regular saturday program so that's the seventeen and twenty fourth then at some point in the future tentatively scheduled for
i think the twenty eighth of december it might get changed will send out a notice about that at some point there will be a mountain seat ceremony
ah that presumably
would ah invite me to go forward as the has the habit of berkeley's and center
ha and ha
that's been
that was surgeons choice it's been recently ah affirmed by the
community in a piano enough
the electoral process as such and ah
i don't want to say a lot about that now because i'm still trying to get my my head around it ah
but how will we will let you know about that
there are few other things that i would like to just tell you about just so we lay out the full schedule for the next couple months on november third on election day we'll we'll have an open sendo from seven thirty until about five pm maybe later depending on what the need is
ah and it just a place of refuge for people of i would say people of
any and all political stripes ah just you welcome to we encourage you to vote really important ah and you welcome to comment said just show up at any point in the day will have alternating periods of of zazen and walking meadow
citation and a couple of periods for for kind of open discussion ah but ah
please join us if you know it's certainly the selection again no matter what side you're on has been a in the midst of the pandemic has been ah
a source of anxiety for many people so so take the refuge with hard step into zazen once you've once you cast your vote ah and you welcome to do that
ah how to say we will have were having an abbreviated real hot zoo this year which will take place ah from the nineteenth to twenty first of december roughly well seven o'clock in the morning until ah seven until about five
live in the evening
and then we'll have our new year's eve programs that's the rest of the year in in short
i'm also just to say i've been scheduling some tuesday evening teas and if you want to participate in that ah please contact hannah and all this stuff will be in the chat at the end
i want to think there's been this week has been really busy ah
as i said it's really it's it's hard to be
it's hard to figure out what is appropriate
you know so fortunately we've been in in very
really good conversations with with search and roshi ah kind of looking with him looking at his his energy and right now ha
but he really wants to get done and he's been working really hard with ah isn't working several days a week ah particularly with with ron and chica
ah editing a book of talks he's got three books that are in the works and these are extremely important this is what he wants to do now
and i really want to support him to do that and to clear the decks to whatever extent he wants to and feels it's appropriate so he's working on he's been working for a long time on a new book of suzuki roshi his talks which is working on with his student gear you had
green gulch
ah he's been working with ron and kika and others on a collection of berkeley's and center talks ah and ah an anthology of them and i think that's
that's pretty much along the way and maybe ron or kifah can tell you about that in a qa and he's also been working on a memoir and ah
to me these are all books that we need and so i really want to support him as a first priority in in doing that right now
but meanwhile we've had to evaluate and arm
what did need what we think the need of the saga is ah
what his needs are what is energy is and that's how we moved up these ceremonies region were thinking of the stepping down ceremony is paired with the mountain seat but it just seems to too long to wait
so ah i want to thank particularly to as a whole bunch of people were working on the the technology for this switches ah
the technical logistics for the prickly for the mountain seat and for stepping down and mountain feet or more complex than anything we've done ah because they're they're going to have to be digital ah
but steve weintraub from plant cedric was one of surgeons disciples ah has been coordinating ah the the activities of these of these two large ceremonies and ah we're very grateful dead with
very he's very even calm person and is just kind of the right and he's also has a fair amount of he says a lot of experience with these with these ceremonies suzanne center so he's the right person to help out and it's a pleasure to work with him

the mind of enlightenment is the mind that season to the nature of impermanence
that's really the point to hold in mind haha

i think that a place to stop and i'm happy to take your questions about
any of this the dharmic aspects the practical aspects ah and ah
may sojourn be well may we all be well
we hope that you'll be able to participate all these ceremonies by the way are going to be at this link the link that you're at right now ah they'll all be in in this info so with that i'd give it back to blake to call on people
so i've opened up the chat so that everybody can chat our you can type a question in the chat please preceded with a question mark or the word question but you can type a question to everybody in the chat or you can re
your blue hand as one participant one song sanga member has done and i'll call on you if of course hassan if you'd like to call on somebody you may do that as well sure
so first i invite a ross plan to lower his hand a new yourself and ask a question
wait and i thank you her son or a lovely talk on such short notice and an app topic drawing on a suzuki roshi is teaching
we'll go well
thank you may we all go well
ah i'll send by ben to i beat yourself and lower your hand and ask a question
hi hose on can you hear me i can okay
thank you thank you for your talk
i just felt compelled to share a
sort of feeling a lot of sorrow and concerned this morning and actually felt it before i found out that surgery would not be speaking and you were giving our talk
and i guess two things come up for me recently
i've had some feeling or
noticed some possible connection between non-acceptance of impermanence and greed
guy greed yes not that that's not understandable but i see sort of
me enjoying some food and wanting more of it even when i'm full seems to be not altogether different from be really enjoying a person or an experience and not wanting to go away
part of impermanence is that it's easy to forget that it's there sometimes and take for granted what's around and
the other thing i'm feeling right now is real
some sorrow around not being able to gather in person during times like the yeah and for
not being able to have practice side-by-side with you in sojourn over the past few months which would have been possible without the pandemic
so that's what i wanted to share and thank you so much for your leadership and your care
thank you thank you ben well
i certainly think that that tie between
ah not accepting impermanence and greed
makes makes complete sense on

i think of the analogy between ah
eating food that you like and then eating more even when you're not hungry is may be a little different than ah
missing people that that you can't see ah
i think that you know if you eat more you're gonna get sick now actually if you get too much from somebody that you've like that may not work either but that's not really the problem ah
i think impermanence is really subtle
and it's to me
so the impermanence is one of the three marks of existence ah in traditionally three marks of existence are ah impermanence non-self and suffering
so to me impermanence and non-self go very closely together
ah non-self means ah that everything is
constructed of
other things that make sense ah so nothing there's no essence there's no like ah ben is constructed of many non been elements
the third mark i think it's a large question for us decline in mahayana buddhism
to my mind
suffering is completely contingent on our attitude towards
non self in impermanence
if if we can include it if we can accept it if we can fold it in then ah then rather then duca we have nirvana
which is exactly what dogan is saying the mind of enlightenment is the mind that season to the nature of impermanence
is recognizing to fundamental nature of er impermanence ah and
when we reject it
it's suffering and had suffering can take the form of greed hate delusion or any mix of the three
so thank you and i wish that we were practicing face to face together but i also really field you know i feel the presence pen relationship of so many of us and actually
so this is one of this this is a stone that we can stumble over or what we can recognize is actually how have our relationships ah ha what binding energy
has actually intensified among all of us over the last nine months and i really believed the ice i feel it in my heart i feel like i know people better and closer we have we have more opportunities for a kind of fluid
ah interaction ah and so there's a gift than their human lot there's even though there's a loss as well
thank you thank you hassan is there a a moment for me to share one created sure thing i'll be quick yeah i was listening to a lecture i think from were how to two thousand and eighteen which i was not able to attend a couple of days ago and i found this little passage in is talk that i wanted to share
yes just be totally sorrowful when it's sorrow just be totally sorrowful so that there's nothing outside of your sorrow then because there's nothing outside of your sorrow it's no longer sorrow it's only sorrow when it's opposite is there i wish that it wasn't like this
that just creates more and more sorrow the more you want to escape from your sorrow the more sorrowful you get that's the way it works just go completely into your sorrow and then there's no sorrow
thank you
and by regard to unmute himself and
ask a question
and you when i ios on
thanks for bringing up the topic
on the one side
while while we be
in not work on accepting the impermanence aspect of it on the other side
is there any one little thing that damn we can do
for surgeon and damn
we may not have announced now but maybe it's sam
an open question for that an german answer but maybe otherwise it's an open question
i have an answer
all he wants is for you to practice
that's it you know that
right yeah that's only one
is what it is nothing that he wants to himself there's nothing that's lacking in his life or his household ah he just all he wants is for us to practice for you to practice
and that was gonna say that i i was gonna say that that's what it's always gonna say right yeah but stall am a wonder still you know if there's something
i don't know maybe it's a question i have to keep asking myself but i think that's fine
and also i think to the extent that there's anything practical or material to do you know ah will put the word out
okay thank you so much thank you for that offer
i invite linda has to unmute herself and ask for question
the queue to bring
was on thank you first career center the oven wise words is warning think you've enjoyed listening to
i'm the question they're asking it has to do with what you began listening not to gibberish she's teaching using stones
so i ever since i lived in st augustine's confessions in college i always remember this one line that he said
the thing which i would not do he's asking god in all hike or what what help re that thing that i would not do that i do anything that i would do what would want to do that i do not do so on
it's easier to understand
not blaming stones to feel cause the stones it's kind of creates illusions
if the if the stone is our own addictive and harmful patterns
it's harder to know
appreciate how they'd bring us down and neighbor and they bring us up there not just innocent stones we have some responsibility in all of that language so could you clarify that for me well i think what he saying in in and i think this is this is
this is what and i had no fruit over the course of the pandemic weeping ah
reading about we've been reading a lot of autonomy sutra which is basically one of the core zantac whose body damas cortex than it was also where it's it's a course and text that actually is talking about the nature of mind and related to
outta mind only school of the yoga charter school and
basically i think that the argument is that those things are like stones
that if you can regard them as stones
just a stone's then you can use them to stand up by
and in fact if you didn't have these difficulties you probably wouldn't be here you wouldn't be in this conversation he wouldn't be at the zendo so it's i would say
they are innocent
they're not guilty and you have to figure out how to use the problem each of us each of us has to figure out how to use the problems that we have because they're what we'd been given to work with ah and you know
the problem i think that you're pointing to which i
oh wonder with bettering the problem that
the hang on a second i'm sorry
can't talk
that was not a problem that was my sister on
the problem you're alluding to i think is that the things these these problems can cause harm for other people
steinbrenner mute myself just one second
i want to say wall and hassan is muted in the phone goes on the cake i mentioned in response to the line of questioning
if surgeon wants anything of us it's presence lots of presence

how do you spell that
his fellow would use fell over the c e now with a d right now so when i was saying is i think that what you're reading children dying because i know we've we've talked about this lot is that we can do want people
this and
we will not stop doing harm to people until we actually really see
does this is what superior she's and so you know he talks about this i think he says arm
when you're deluded about the earth's true nature that is delusion when you're enlightened about the earth that is enlightenment when you stand up by the earth that is enlightenment when you fall and blame the earth that is delusion the same thing is true of our
the distortions of our personality actions
that's okay to thank you thank you for from for getting up again and again it's it's it's really powerful example it's really it's it's inspiring
i invite susan marvin to an mute herself and lower her blue hen
good morning allen relies on thank you so much for this lovely time and your words and in presence
what comes to mind in are just a few days before my father died he was ninety five if he looked me in the eyes and he said are you gonna fall apart when i die and i said absolutely not i'm going to grieve and i'm going to miss you terribly but i'm not going
fall apart and he was so relieved there was a kind of on lightness the emerged and ice i think that on
it i'm so surgeon
he sees how we're not falling apart how the practice has become so strong during this time of the pandemic how
how we the strength of our practice is so so alive and so present and look how many of us are here online day in day out and i imagine that's a great relief to him that he can see that strength and he knows
that will grieve but that will
brickley zen center is in good shape
i just wanted to share that thank you well
first of all when we are talking with him this week i
what i felt i did not feel any sense of resignation
what i felt was that he trusted
what was going on
and he trusted the sanga to be able to hold it
so so that was that was really encouraging the other thing is that
what in referred to have been quoted
we may have moments of falling the point
that's okay
we fall apart this is the nature to me it's nature the practice has fallen apart and coming together
yeah it's dying and coming back to life and dying and coming back to life in each moment and so when we saw we should really sorrow completely
and not just it won't just be one time yeah
the tears come and when they come let them flow
hello stop and something else happened new you cry again that some key that so it's not like one blip in it's over
you know it's just whatever actually whatever it is that we're doing to enter it completely
that's i think what you learn from a practice set some we learn from sojourn that's what he learned from suzuki roshi
the i pig many of us are really really grateful for them
don't thank you
i invite debit self to unmute herself
the morningstar
an awkward fit the key for me i write my hammer not as unstable it's if it's okay it's a little funky but i can hear you
am i i'm so interested that stumbling blocks my dear concept and other scriptures i was raised as a sudden comments before ah with them is some of the christian
sculptures which admonish us not to be our brothers stumbling block
and and down as one of the teachings that i think that i think that i've lost my internet but not just miss this okay i'll finish this thought witches it's never occurred to me the opposite of that might be being a stone there for my brother and sister to get up
and also the people who seem like my stumbling blocks maybe my getting up stones and i'm interested to learn more about in a buddhist tradition around stumbling blocks i can have i have to look further ah but
and one of the things i think that states
to the goes ah across the board to me for spiritual religious teachings is that every teaching is a remedy for your suffering
so it's not that the christian teaching is in contradiction to the buddhist teaching because ah
those teachings are not absolutes
ah you know on some other place you know the bullet might say yes mindfully remove all the stones from the pathway
i could imagine that he says something like that
and i can certainly imagine ah christ who was given to seemingly paradoxical statements ah
talking about are using the stone to get up from that would seem completely in in in character with with those teachings to so ah
you use what's useful
you know you use the teaching in a way to it's useful if it's not useful at this moment and forget about it and if it comes around and prove oh yeah that is that's useful great but i look for i'll look for that for you and we can talk about it
i see let's just take these next three and probably that's it
peter overton

ah some really great see you to so much better or worse this morning
i'm just had a couple of impressions on what she said topic you to talk
can you do with no see like we were talking a lot about a moment of challenge when it comes to holding both celebration and grief and accept the media
the this is it held on the earth to
kick the next step
but it seems to be are there is his first course of a challenge are many moments of challenge you know that practice
it seems that the moment of acceptance or been able to hold those two things that seem contradictory has a kind of awesome beauty to it rises at the moment the moment he returned to stand up
something happens and i think it's sometimes useful to remember that there is a there's a positive
characteristic your attribute
no right i i think a yeah i think that that's right and i think that
to be
i feel like i was trained in
in kind of another
yeah i'd think about it is like you are
trip over the stone and you fall down and you know you
rolling around on the ground and into you know i'm
i'm hurt i'm hurt i'm getting dirty and urge a roar and and wallow in that if you know instead of just instead of getting up
ah you know
it's it reminds me of the scene in in the producers were ah ah
what's his name ah
that the zero must still carriage was the other actor's name
well i can't remember anyway so my still throws the throes of a glass of water in and is i'm where i work
if you know the ground and eventually you have to get out right you have to get up you have to get up so why not get up when you can
you know ah cannot wallow not make more of your suffering than is necessary
it's not that you're not suffering but just don't make don't get stuck in it yeah
actually before i go to come here i wonder if rauner kiko wants to say something about the progress of the books

kicker gonna go ahead on i can just say what we have been doing
and and maybe what i forget
ron and surgeon and i mean
a once a week and then recently the last two weeks going forward three or four times a week three times a week to go over talks that were
first gone over by another group of people susan marvin carol call karen sometime andrea thatch lots of people contributed to getting going through sojourns talks and essays and we got thirty five chapters are so so sojourn has gone through each chapter
at least once if not twice so we have some pretty clean beautiful chapters so now we're just seeing did we miss any good gems
you know he he continues to give talks that are really good and we want to include those as well so it's kind of where do we stop and do we use a volume two
well then i'll let ron pick up from there but it's it's it's such rewarding work in such a nice way to be close with ron and sodium and also to just read read and reread sergeants autobiography and his lectures is really good way to
learn learn surgeons teaching
i'm you okay so we're working on his autobiography right now because it we've gone over the first pass the lectures will go back and more
but now we're working on his autobiography which he's been working on for quite a while as well as for talks to the a because a horror ways you can my talks about his life
and you know i'd rather just tell you how i feel about his attitude rather than the details of the books that i just put you know we're working really hard on it and he is very sharp what he's working with us and he's really he picks up things instantly in language that i would never even think about ah
and i agree is very thorough but he's also very sensitive were especially going back over his life and also very matter of fact and those two qualities or teach near i can take her to something about how he is
taking care of what he's doing right now is a matter of combination a matter of fact this and real sensitivity
so as what it feels like and i'm learning from that thank you thank you both thank you for that work and just say i've always felt that ah
that certain roshi was an excellent editor excellent editor of his own work and excellent editor of suzuki vote which is where it really just pairs it down to the to the essence and i've i've learned a lot from just observing how he does that so angry
before i get last two are adjusted by matt glazer posted the clip from the producers that i was asked on skillfully enacting and it's worth seeing but not not right now lol wait till friday after the talk ah cobia
good morning thank you hold on on thank you for great talk as always in are wishing sajjan fast recovery the familiar i'm worried but as human nature
and regards to the stones on the pad
i saw to see it on
i kind of look at as acknowledgement and also taking responsibility
and decor that comes to minors from shanti deva and i should have explained on myself with my sandalwood soap
when i'm walking with my
not you frozen

but he killed the analogy is if you want to protect the bottom of your feet you can cover the entire world with leather or simply wanted a pair of shoes right you know the stones are always gonna be there
nepotism we just gotta to do our part and keep continue to get back up i thank you well it's also interesting that one tiny tiny stone become your sandal can be very uncomfortable yes you know
fear and if your job is to be a road builder
you wanna make us lose pathway because that's your job that's your intention so it's not like you know you leave me i think about places in berkeley reason why they left all these routes they're you know
anyway on the last one is helen
good morning mourning
i've been reading francis whether who writes a lot about grief and sorrow and he quoted a poet glial barbara de ron i'm saying the deeper that sorrow cars and to your being the more joy you can contain and i've been thinking about that relationship between
grief and mourning and sadness and on the other hand
and also celebration and joy and i find great comfort in that and that i just wanted to share it with you and everyone and also find out what you think about that idea
i think
i think that suffering
can really teach us
about to experience the joy of not suffering
you know ah and that makes us look even more deeply into the nature of suffering but also into nature of joy i mean i i think that i really relate to
ah these words of of kick not on that suffering is not enough
ah that one of the problems in the configuration the in the understanding of buddhism for the waves it's taught in a very simplistic way is that life is suffering
and i the way i think about it is life is marked by suffering it doesn't boil to say life is suffering means it boils down to suffering which is
greek unacceptable ah but i feel that suffering it said as as you were a philip suffering kind of tempers us ah suffering can break you but it also is like a fire that you go through that that allow
easy to be stronger and more flexible
you know if you have the capacity to really ah
to work with your suffering then it can be a gift ah but i don't wanna i also don't want no simplistically are idealistic li ah romanticize suffering
ah suffering somebody once asked me ah
the surf does suffering
bring redemption
because i think in a lot of religious traditions there is there's a kind of message and i said i don't really think so ah but it can it can be an element of that
but not necessarily it's only what it comes back to what i'm saying that we learn in a log of tourists sutra it comes back to your mind how you work with it
and that's our practice so i think this is a good place to stop and i want to ah thank you all and let's just let's take care of let's all take care of each other and let's take care of sojourn in the practice has best we can and
i have good weekend
he is our number lives i vow to awakened with them dharma gates are boundless i vow to enter them buddha as way
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