Um, great. So, uh, yeah, so this is kind of our first attempt at a session director training and session director, um, online session director, uh, ship. I don't know what you'd call it. So, um, have either of you been to any online sessions, uh, like through other sanghas or, um, no, I have not. Mary Beth, yes or no. a short one. It was like two hours. Okay. Okay, great. I went to one partially last weekend, and so I have a little insight into how they did it, but we'll probably be doing it a little different anyways. So what I'm going to do, I'm going to share my screen. What I've been doing is making a checklist and this is based off of the online Saturday director checklist.

[01:10]

So I don't honestly know if this is the best format for writing this out. So I also started another sheet which I can share with you that basically has the schedule and then the what you're supposed to do at each point in the schedule. So it's just copied from this checklist over here, but I felt like this was kind of, I don't know, for me, it just didn't work with my brain, but yeah, we can kind of, this is flexible is what I'm gonna say. So I'll share this with you. But I'm just going to talk through some of the things that you need to do and then I'll stop sharing and we'll do some of those things. So the first thing is logging in to our online Zendo account. Kika, I know you know how to do that because you're a Doan. And Marybeth, have you done that before? I haven't logged in as the BCC.

[02:13]

Yeah. OK, great. So Can I suggest something? Yeah. Is it possible to make the password a little less gravelly? I am not the person to decide that. And what was that? Is it Judy? Yes, I think it would be Judy. And I am guessing that the answer is probably going to be no, because of security reasons. But I don't know for sure. Just having all those things in there makes it so that it's more secure. Yeah. Well, I think now that I have it on a switch user, it'll automatically load in. But that's, yeah, anyway. Yeah. The password, Mary Beth, you're going to want to write this.

[03:20]

I'm going to actually chat it at you. Okay. And then I'm not sure if this training is going to be displayed online. So that's the password. It's been chatted. And we can go over that in more detail after this. Oh, I need to read this. Okay. Is that a capital at the beginning? Yeah. Here, I can stop sharing, or I guess you can see the chat. It's going to be the same size. And those are zeros, not Os. Oh, thank you, zero. Okay, I think I've got it. Yeah. Great. So we'll maybe, we'll have you just log in at one point to make sure you've got that.

[04:26]

And one thing that's important is, and this is, all the DOANs know this, is that you only log into this at your allotted time because we only have one user. Right. And yeah. So I'll dig into that in a little bit. So you'll log in using the BZC account, and then you'll start the meeting, the BZC Online Zendo. Then you'll rename yourself so that people can ask you questions and see your first name. And then I have, you'll make the Doan the co-host so they can support you. in some of the like hosting abilities. The way that Hozon wanted to do it is that I am going to be the person that's going to be ringing the bells. So the Doan is actually going to be Hozon, which is just for the services.

[05:29]

Okay. I'm ringing the bells. OK, well, we'll see how that fits in. I'm going to stop sharing, and we're going to go through those first things. So to log in to the account, you need to make sure that, well, actually, the more important thing, rather than logging in, is making sure that you log in as BCC. Otherwise, you won't be able to open the actual meeting that you need. And then two, you need to make sure that when you're done, you log out. And so that's in the instructions at the end, but that's kind of the important thing about logging in and logging out. And do you access your Zoom from the, how do you access Zoom? Do you go online to zoom.us and how do you get into meetings? I have an application. Okay. So you use the Zoom app. Uh-huh. Okay, great. Is it better or worse? Is there a difference?

[06:32]

I think there's no difference. Okay. It's just a matter of which instructions you would follow to do that. So there are some DOAWN instructions. Let me pull those up really quick. And just because they have the screenshots, but you've probably got that part. It's not the hard part of this. Well, I've never logged in in this way. Yeah, but this part is, I think you'll get it. Let's see here, is this the? Yeah, okay. Let me share my screen really quick. So just to give you a visual, and this one we can't really practice right now, but maybe I'll have you practice and then if we have time afterwards. So you have the Zoom application that looks like this maybe? Not really.

[07:32]

When you log in, does it look like this? Sometimes. Okay. So this is the, yeah. So basically you'll want to make sure that you're logged out of you and you can go down to switch account or sign out. And then you'll want to, log in as BZC. And yeah, here's the keep me signed in. So we'll make sure you have these instructions too with the visuals, and we can practice that later. Okay, well that seems simple enough. Yeah. So then the next thing that you'll need to do, you or Hozon will need to do, is Yeah, Kika, do you have a question? Oh no, I'm sorry. Oh, okay. No worries. Is you'll need to rename yourself. So do you know how to rename yourself in Zoom?

[08:38]

Yeah. Okay, great. So just for people who are watching, you go to, I don't know if I can do a, I don't think I can share Zoom. Well, I know how to do it on my, whatchamacallit, Can you see the participants screen on my screen right now? No. Yes. Like it says participants and... Actually, that was mine. Oh, okay. I wasn't sure. I thought I turned on a setting that let you guys see this. I see it there now. You see participants and... Yeah. Okay. Okay. Just for those who are watching and learning this, one of the ways that you can do this. I just go to the more and do the name. Yep, you do more and then you do rename. So you rename yourself. I'm gonna rename myself right now to Berkeley Zen Center, Kelsey.

[09:42]

Yeah, and you can have fun with this. So that's how you rename yourself. And then the next thing is making someone a co-host. So I'm going to make you guys co-hosts. So the way to do that is, are you guys still seeing the participant screen? Yeah. Okay, great. I'm not at all. I don't know. That's interesting. I'm not. That is interesting. Do you see your guys' videos? Yep. Uh, no. What do you see, Mary Beth? I just went to gallery view. I can see participants on my screen, but I'm not seeing it from yours. Hmm. I mean, like I can click on participants and get to it, but that's not what you're wanting, right?

[10:46]

No. Um, I'll stop sharing and reshare. So can you see the video with all three of us? Yes. Okay, on my screen? No. I'm seeing it on my screen from my gallery view. Okay, well I think, hopefully this is just being recorded, so it's the same way to make someone a co-host, is you go to their name, and you select make co-host. Now you select more. And then you can also do it by going to someone's video if you need to. So I'm gonna make you guys both co-hosts. There. And I would just go to the three dots there. Yeah, exactly. Of course I don't have that capability right now. Okay.

[11:47]

Hmm, okay. So that's the first part of this, and that's one of the more active things, is we're gonna have you start the meeting, rename yourself, and then make the DOAN the co-host, or whoever you're doing this with. And then over here, the DOAN is gonna use their personal email account. They're gonna enter the online Zendo, and they're gonna mute themselves until after the rogue chant. So next up is reading the Sashin Guidelines and chanting the robe chant. So I am not sure how you guys are planning on doing services. Do you have some idea as to how that's happening or that's going to happen? What I understand right now is that Hosan will be the Doan. I'm not sure if he will be the Doshi or if Sojin will. They were talking about that today.

[12:49]

that could be part of the mix. And Lori will be the Kokuyo Ukkudo. And so they will be together, Hozon and Lori, so that it's just one... Sound. Sound. Yeah. Okay. Great. So I think the instructions will stay the same then. So what will happen during that time is during the chant, then the Doan will unmute. So I'm actually gonna just type this out really quick. You guys can't see it, but Doan slash Kokyo Pear will unmute and chant. And are you expecting all the, and will you be chanting along or will you be muted? assume that I would be muted. I would pretty much prefer everybody be muted because I think it's too bad.

[13:55]

Yes. That's how we've been doing it lately with everybody muted except for one person. It's been working well because of the delay. Yeah. Great. So we'll have you mute and then robe chant And then, great. And then from the robe chant. The robe chant, I would think, because I'm assuming I'm just going to do the clunk, and I'll just leave the robe chant. Kokyo doesn't usually do that. Oh, the robe chant, you'll be leading that. OK. OK. Just kidding. We'll have service after the second Zazen period.

[14:57]

Okay. So everyone except for the director will be muted during the robe chant. And then do you want the, and then will you ring three bells to start Zazen? Well, right after, that we will go into kin-hin. Are you sure? Yeah. It doesn't say that. It says Zazen. Are you doing the robe chant at the end of the first period of Zazen? Period, yes. Okay, and the guidelines also at the end? It'll be before the robe chant. It'll be during. Okay. That's where I was confused. Okay, so I need to update these. It's different. Yeah. So I will update these with more clarity, but basically, so what we'll have is you'll make them co-host so they can support, and then you're going to mute yourself if not already muted.

[16:06]

And then you can either unmute the DOAN or they will do it for themselves. Most likely they'll do it for themselves. And then the dawan will unmute after they're situated for the bells, and then start Zazen with three bells. And then everyone will be muted. That'll be unique, because I'll be ringing the bells for each thing. OK. Timekeeper. I don't know right now if I can write up the instructions for that unique setup. I'll check with Judy on this, but I'm going to keep it still. Just share this document with me, and then I can make the changes. Yeah, but first off, the document's not finished. I'll share it with you when I'm done with this. But also, I'm not going to be able to necessarily move these around. I think you have a good enough understanding, but basically what I'm hoping to get through in this training is making sure that you can mute, unmute, all that stuff, mute other people, unmute other people, do these renaming things here.

[17:19]

Okay. And then kind of talk through the logistics. So, and Kika, I don't know if you've, thought about if you're doing another Sashin in the future? Do you know if you have one? August Sashin. I appreciate, I know how to do all the stuff, but I don't know the, you know, I would just, I would just kind of examine this document right before Sashin so that I remember who does what. Yeah. I guess I'm wondering, would you be also doing sort of a hybrid version? Like, is that going to be our BCC version of having the director actually be sort of the timekeeper and then having someone else be? Um, no, I think it might, I think I would maybe enlist since I'm here on the premises, I would enlist, you know, 10 or Helen or Ross. So there would be a need for this exact, um, schedule, you know,

[18:24]

There would or would not? There would indeed. I was planning on recruiting somebody else's timekeeper and Hozon did not want me to do that. Got it. Just for your reference. No, that's fine. I'm just trying to figure out how to write something that's generic so that others can reuse it and just trying to make sure we get that. So it's going to be a work in progress. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Okay, so the director will mute themselves for Zazen, right? And then the Doan will ring bells, whoever that is, and then mute for Zazen. And then at the end of Zazen, just the Doan unmutes and rings either two or one bell in our typical form. Then for Kinhin, I have on here for the first one to explain how Kinhin will work for people, just for the first Kinhin.

[19:30]

And then I thought this would maybe be helpful for people, was to chat the Kinhin end time so people could see that, but you don't have to do that necessarily. I think the bell could probably work, but just in case people were somewhere where they couldn't hear their computer But they might not, if their computer is way up elsewhere, they're not going to see the chat either. Because we're recommending that they not carry a device with them when they do kin. Yeah, I'm not saying that people would carry the device. The chat would be saying, for example, right now it's 6.56. And so I would chat kin-hin until Well, they'll know because everybody will have the schedule, and I'm asking them to print it out and put it next to them. Okay.

[20:34]

I mean, not everyone has a printer, and this is just a suggestion to put it in the chat so that it's more accessible in a certain way. putting that notation in the chat. That's something that I would do is just kind of check the chat before I go off and do my thing, you know, just know when I need to come back. Because you do have to be attuned to the bells. And if you're away, and you can't hear them, you want to have a time in mind. And it's true, you know, we do hand out the schedules, Mary Beth, but I think having this additional cue is really helpful. okay, I'm fine to do it. I was thinking of it in a different light. So that's fine. Yeah. Yeah. We're not, not to chat and bring people out of Kinhin.

[21:35]

Um, that's also not what, um, that was for us just to give people like, uh, you know, both, uh, announced, um, time and then a visual time, uh, just cause we're dealing with all different kinds of technology that people have in their homes. I'm going to ask a question at this point just because now we're talking about chat. Is there a way to disable chat so that people cannot chat? There is a way to disable chat. I think it's a setting. Let me see here. Yeah, there's a setting, you can actually do it. So let me bring my window down here. Can you see the Zoom group chat window? No. Let me try and minimize and see if that shows up.

[22:39]

Does that show up for anyone? No, I don't see your screen changing at all. Yeah, okay. So, What I'm going to do is I'm going to stop sharing. And then I'm going to have, if each of you could go down to the chat. So in your lower Zoom bar, there's a little chat box. And if you click on that, it should pop up in the right hand corner of the Zoom application. And it says Zoom group chat. Great. And then at the very bottom of that, you can see who you're chatting to. And I think the default is to everyone. Yes. Yeah. So do you see those three little dots to the right? Yeah. If you click on that, what does it say? Participants can chat with no one, host only, or everyone. Yes. So you could make it, probably it would be a good idea to make it host only in case something came up. Yeah. What do you think?

[23:41]

I want to say no one, just to limit any kind of, no impulse that people may get, but I think that's a little cruel or just not, not, not right. You know, just in case someone does have something, but maybe it could be in the admonitions, uh, when you read, you know, just like it has to be a certain urgency to chat to the, um, Susheen director. Yeah. I was mainly thinking that if people had to leave for some reason, it should, Yeah, it should be open, but it shouldn't be encouraged. No, I wouldn't encourage it. I think we won't necessarily have to say anything about chat. And if people are wanting to go and chat, they'll go and they'll see that the only person they can chat to is the host. I feel like probably it won't lead to an instant messaging back and forth with the host.

[24:47]

I could just not respond. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so I added change the chat settings to host only in the beginning part of the setup for the Zendo. Great. Great. So after When Kinhin ends, are we still doing the Doan or whoever will ring one bell to signal people to come back to their cushions? Yes. Okay, great. And then I have, when most participants are settled, ring three bells to signal the start of Zazen. Does that sound about right? That's right. Okay. Now, can the host still chat with everyone if we've got it changed to just toast only? Yeah. Okay. Um, so the, um, and the way you do that is you see a little two box, then you can select who you want to chat to. So I can, if you guys want to, why don't you send me a private message just so you can select, uh, who, who you're chatting to so we can see that.

[25:57]

Oh, look at that. That's, Thank you. Wow. Here's a spell check. What is Jose? I like that. That's a fun spelling, like my Dharma name. And I got a love you girl from Mary Beth. That would be an interesting thing to get in session. So great. So Yeah, you guys have got this, which is good. Maybe this is actually a bad video for people to learn off of, because you guys are savvy enough to really get this. Yeah, I think it's good to cover it. It's like Zazen instruction. Sure. OK, so then I have, we do Zazen again. And then this is leading up to service. So I need to write out how service will happen now that I know how you guys are planning on doing it.

[27:00]

And then with breaks, are you just gonna announce a break and then ask people to, or allow people to turn off their computers and join back at a certain point? Yes. Yeah, okay. And you could turn off your computer at that point if you wanted to. Yes. Okay, great. Then we have a Zazen again. And okay, now, so this is where it's tricky. The Dharma talk? Well, before that, because now it's intersecting with the Saturday program. Yes. The 945 Zazen and then the Dharma talk and all of that. Now, yesterday I was thrown for a loop because Hozon was like, you should just have the Saturday director do it at this point. I don't think so. I just have to chime in. It doesn't make sense to me, because that's our job.

[28:06]

But he was like... No, there's no Saturday director doing Sashin. So, you know, Sojan is going to be coming. He's going to be doing the talk from the Dokasan hut. I'm going to do a test of whether we can get, you know, just getting power out there and making sure that I have a signal out there. so you can just introduce him and I'll turn on the camera, you know, if you identify me as a co-host. I have the instructions for that piece, so let's go into that in a little more detail, but Marybeth, I do think that It would be a little confusing to have someone else jump in and start the meeting and do the Saturday directorship. So, yeah, I don't think. At the end. Yeah, so I don't really think that makes sense, but we'll have to clarify that.

[29:09]

So I'm going to. I'll be working with hose on tomorrow to set up the hut so I can do that part. do what part? Ask him about just no Saturday director, just Sashim director. Well, he told me to talk to Blake and Jerry and Judy because he didn't want to decide it, but that's kind of what he felt would be better. So I put in a call to them and I don't know what they've decided. Okay. Well, in case you're doing it, Let's go over that. I think he's thinking it's too hard to teach me how to do it. And I'm like, yeah, that's not, yeah, I don't, I don't agree with that. So also guys, we are recording this. Okay. Just as a, yeah. So we'll, we'll check, uh, chat with them.

[30:12]

Um, so the next piece here is, um, Okay, the Dharma Talk, and I didn't put that in this format because it's kind of a long checklist. So I'm gonna click back over here and I can add it in there, but I wanted to, I just didn't want to put it all in there. So for the Zazen prior- For the first part. Sorry, what was that? There wouldn't be any difference for the first part. I would just log back in again 15 minutes early for the 945 saws in? Yeah, I think so. Let me think. Yeah, that sounds about right. And that matches up with the Saturday program. So, yep. And when you're logged in like that, then you're just kind of keeping an eye on the Zendo and an ear on the Zendo and listening, you know, if there's someone who accidentally unmuted themselves or purposefully unmuted themselves, that you would mute them.

[31:19]

so that it's a quiet Zendo. Do you, I'm sure you know how to, but you know how to mute people? I haven't ever done that before, so. Let's do that for practice, I'll stop sharing. So you can either mute me by going over my video and clicking mute in that little. Oh. But then I lost everyone. Did you unmute yourself? Yeah, you can't unmute someone, which is probably good. You don't want someone going around and unmuting you when you're not ready for it. So I can't unmute anyone? I think it varies, but I got a little notification that said the host would like to unmute you on my screen, and that's what I clicked. So it prompted me to unmute myself. OK.

[32:20]

Yeah. And then, Kika, do you know how to mute and unmute? Yes. OK, great. I can also do it from the participant list. Yes, you can do it there. And then there's also, in the participant list, do you see the button that says Mute All? Yes. Go ahead and click that, and then we'll unmute ourselves. Yeah. Great, so you muted us all. So that button is what you'll probably want to use when you're in Zazen and you hear some noise in the online Zendo is just click mute all so you don't have to search for who on the participant list or whose video is unmuted. Does it also mute people who are just on a phone? Yes, it will. And so there is a way to unmute yourself manually on your phone. You have to press a certain set of numbers. But if someone is joining session just on the phone, there's going to be a couple other probably technical issues that they may run into anyways.

[33:32]

Oh. Sorry. Kiko is clapping. Just having a little fun. I like it. Okay. unmute yourself for the Dharma talk. So you will unmute yourself and then you'll do an introduction or someone will do an introduction. And then I have the Doan or whoever the co-hosts are as supporting the director by muting and unmuting participants when necessary. So Marybeth, if you, when you join, it's, it's totally fine to assign whoever you want, who's got the tech skills as a co-host. Um, and, um, That way they can kind of support you where they can mute and unmute people. You'll introduce the speaker, and then you'll spotlight them. So that is another feature. I'm going to stop sharing. The way you spotlight is by mousing over either the name in the participant menu or the video and going to those three dots again.

[34:50]

And if you want to either spotlight me or Kika. I don't have that option. Kika, do you have that video or that option? Oh, I have it on yours. I think it must be because she's not on a video. Oh, you're right. Oh, is that true? Yeah. So I can't spotlight her, but I can spotlight you. Cool. So that puts me as the central speaker here, and it puts everyone's mode into speaker mode, I believe. So everyone sees my big face. And I just canceled. Oh, wait. There you go. So Kika actually spotlighted herself. All right. Oh, I see. Well, all I did was cancel. Oh, but then what happens is when you're talking, so if you cancel spotlight on someone, so I'll cancel spotlight and Kika go ahead and talk.

[35:53]

And then when I talk, it becomes my spotlight, huh? Yeah. And so if I talk again. Right. Yeah. It'll just jump between whoever's talking. How does one get to the spotlight? I always forget how to get there. Oh, it's how you cancel spotlight the same way. Well, you know, I just had a little prompt up in the left-hand corner. Oh, that said cancel spotlight? No, it just said, you know, like right now in the left-hand corner, it's recording and I can control that by pausing or stopping. stopping it and so there was speaker view was right next to that like do it again. Mary Beth. Spotlight Kelsey. Yeah. Oh, I see and there's the cancel the spotlight video on the top left. Yeah. so the way to start the spotlight video and you can do this too. Kika is just either mouse over the video of Mary Beth or myself. or go to the participant list and click on more and there should be three dots and then, yeah, great.

[37:00]

Yeah. So there's our spotlight. Yep. Lovely spotlight lady. Yes. Um, and then, um, when, after you've introduced the speaker and spotlighted them, um, you're going to want to, I'm going to share my screen again. Um, you're going to want to start record and it's already, it's automatically set to record to the cloud. So that means you don't have to worry about it downloading to your computer. And we have Lori who will download the talks afterwards. So wait, to start a record in the middle, where do I do that? Because we won't be recording anything else before then. Yeah, so there should be, but right now, because I'm recording, we can't actually do this activity. I could stop recording. You could pause it. I'll stop recording.

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