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to end well good morning again everyone ah
thank you for joining us on this
this day when we can settle into are sitting in enjoy the day
sunday sashimi
the meaning of the word translates to something like to touch the mind
and it's one of the
key elements of our practice
along with
the continuous
practice of daily thousand ah
usually every month we will have at least a one day city often that is a half to is sitting as well ah a couple of times a year we have a longer sittings five days and seven days ah
and
these allow us to go more deeply into our practice perhaps in one period of size and a day might ha i like if you know that my son alex
ah for the last year and a half he's been a rinzai zen monastery in japan ha
and they do
a seven day
intensive session every month
and then in between they have a slightly more relaxed
schedule but is still quite so she in like so they're maintaining this practice par
and is kind of depth that you can experience ah
they're doing that day in day out
our approach is a little different our approach is that
we are shaped
by our daily practice and by sir sheen
and
also by the usual activities of our life
so hum
if you think of session is kind of the rituals asian have
zen practice as life then ah you could also think of our life as
the kind of ritual as asian as well which simply means ah
that we bring mindfulness to each activity
and wanted the places that we've learned that
he's in
the sushi day itself
so ah
you know some places some traditions have
what they might call meditation retreats
where what you're doing is sitting all day
and deal go to and at meal time ah you know the to
dining hall and
the cook school serve them lunch
and then they go back to their meditation
sometimes i sit together sometimes and we sit in their rooms or in more traditional times in nk is
but in how or form
ha
safina has been enacted by everyone
so
the predict dissipates new session are also the cooks
they're also the servers
precision day includes in a sense
the usual things we might do we have meditation and walking meditation we have service
we
cook our meals we serve them we eat them with listen to the dharma
we we also have a work period so we have worked so all the elements of an ordinary day are included in a day of sushi
and so in a way it's
it's how we model our everyday life
it's interesting some of your britain
well seasoned in this practice over the years and some few relatively new
i remember
my first star
my early experiences with sheen there was a lot of hub
it's kind of a build up than he felt
in the days leading up to safely in come and i you know some of it was ah a kind of excitement
ah some of it was definitely anxiety
because
ah it can be hard ah and i remember
i guess when i first lived here every night before such been the safety director would combine it would post the the positions the jobs cause there's lots of jobs to the this of thing about sushi in which is fantastic is that
very complex
mechanism with a lot of moving parts because there's there's cooking in your surfing and is washing dishes and there's no work and there's a world leader and there's liturgy in your people chanting so so all of these positions have to be
a assigned
and everybody has has something to do
ah not just to sit here but actually to make it happen
the sheen were making it happen together
and
i would go down and i always wanted to know what's my job gonna be for the next day
and then sometimes you know we talked to so to roshi and say oh how do you prepare for sashimi
and he would laugh
and say hey i don't prepare ha
i set my alarm clock and when the alarm goes off
and it's machine the in and i just go to say sheen i thought that was
i thought that was disingenuous the team
true but hum
i've come to that point and you can come to that point like this morning
last night i wasn't really thinking about sixteen and this morning i just you know i got up and say okay stuck i gotta get this set up for session in the zendo and then in the office and
it becomes part of your regular day life
and ah that's kind of relaxing
which is not the same as saying that it's easy
it's if himself
ah

some of you will doubtless
experience painful painting your legs or other parts of your body
some of you you were all of us at different times will feel distracted or restless ah
some will find an ease of mind
as you sit and you might may find yourself settling into that in the course of the day
ah and me think about it
that's kind of what our lives are like from moment a moment so this gives us an opportunity to reflect on our lives in a way that that has a clear
focus or has boundaries about it
can we meet session with
the principles of
determination
of effort
patience
his love
one of the things that arises in the course prickly in the course of a long session
he said
you can one can experience
this extraordinary feeling of love and connection
with all of those
don't when sitting together
and we're all melded into one body
there's is a great feeling that is
maybe is worth the pain
so
i remember i've spoken about this ah i remember my first but it wasn't my first sushi in the first session i encountered i think it was in row hot soup of nineteen eighty three or four and
i was
beginning student then hand ha
i wasn't doing sashimi and i had no idea what fishing was can i came
to descend over five forty p m zazen
and there was a complete later from feeling in the room
ah the seats were all filled
memphis people's stuff was under the times it just had this and people have been sitting all day so you could feel the energy
that i built up in the room and when i walked in it was like
being struck by a wave was a wow what is this
hand
all i can say is it
it was good to me i wanted to be part of that and i told myself on i'm never gonna miss one of these again
can pretty much i haven't in the whole time that had been here
i'm sat almost every real hot soup here ah some in a couple of other places but ah it's an important
the test was such an important
sensation and realization and kind of vow that arose mysteriously without
having to
push your poor to give birth to a two story emerged from my sensibility
but session was hard
ah
been working
ron and kika and rogoff have been we're working with a social roshi in the last month of his life on his memoir and have one point in his memoir he is talking about his his early days of practice
had his first sushi
hen
so in a date a period of in
he signed a procession is had period of size him and an ed killian
and then the bell rang everybody sat down and he said
oh god they're going to do it again
ah
hand he did it can he got through lunch
and
just felt like the can't do this he left
ha
and he went out to the marina and walked around
he walked round for little warhol and realized
his mind was back in session
and there was no place else to be
that he was just in the out of joint with
walking around marina already anything else he could think to do and so he went back to new
zendo hundred street
after being gone for a couple of hours in
suzuki roshi said although look back
and
that was it
some of you might remark right rub your first machines my first machine the the one day after that robot zoo i thinking in a january and are
ah my legs hurt so much
ha and also
i was struck with the mind of desire
can it became
just absolutely unavoidable
what i desperately wanted
was a hamburger
and i thought about is that no no no
not going to goose
can finally on at during break after after before work period
i said i gave in
and i went over to the berkeley bowl
and i'm not focused in search of a hamburger walk hadn't it turns out what i was in search of was something that looked like a hamburger
and
in the bakery i found a bagel
and i just said okay that'll do
and i bought a on a walk on eating it and
my desire was gone
oh was that david
this is theresa
like avatar see you
catherine
oh so i had a beagle and then i was able to set aside that mind and can enter in two thousand to one of the the things that we experience in sauce and are we see all the objects of our mind
and they can be very compelling and very real but the objects of our mind is like he didn't need a hamburger
a bagel that look like a hamburger would suffice so
you know does just a mental image
so what we can frighten in session or is this steady stream of mental images also physical sensations and what we're developing is the capacity to
include them
not reject them
but will include them as i was saying earlier in his eyes and instruction
so i'm in the last months as well
it's been i think tomorrow
ah six months since surgeon roshi dot and
ah and we're going to do on monday
we're going to do our monthly
ah founders ceremony and i think what we're finding what to do with on for this combining suzuki roshi is found your ceremony and sojourns founders ceremony on one occasion the month
but he read
over these months
i have been revisiting
teachings that i can remember from search and roshi and also a thing said that he's written so as i said we've been working on ah this book which is combine memoir and collection of lectures but also
so coming very soon
all of lectures that we have collected on cassettes and cds
of nineteen eighty
have now been digitized
and the that's all going to be handed over to us in the next week or so
ah there are two thousand
letters
and i am discovered i went back and counted all the lectures that are on
the website which are ones that we recorded directly to digital there's another six hundred
so you know the average and most of these
especially for those first thirty years or so most of them are by sojourn roshi some by but other students or teachers who came in but hum
it's an unbelievable body of work
hum
so it's gonna take us long company scratched the surface of this or to get organized them probably as your help but i went back i was looking at a scifi and lecture of surgeons to no want to speak from that for while
ah
this is a lecture that he gave in chapel hill north carolina and you can find the whole lecture ah
if you if you google the chapel hill's in center website and look at the talks you'll find a collection of his talks and they're really good talks ah that have been very ah skillfully edited
anyway this was one in a row hot to session of a nineteen ninety seven on continuous practice
tokyo uses his to erm in one of his essays ah the essay is it's called a gouge v which literally translates as continuous practice and he talks about
the circle of the way in continuous practice
the circle of the way as the circle is a jewel
it really implies our connection to each other
as in that circle and that's the activity of sushi
someone the i read you a short section from sojourn in made a comment as we go along
we've been sitting zazen doing kill him eating meals cooking meals serving each other
moment after moment we've been dealing with are silent dramas
dealing with are not so silent dramas without complaints and with our doubts
this is continuous practice
very concentrated time of continuous practice
what i would say is or
well he said during this time to questions come up
one is why
any other is how
why is a question
if you haven't asked yourself that question yet today
hi be willing to bet you will ask your question yourself that question at some point later in the day
why am i doing this
you know ah that's to me that is almost invariably
i'm a question that arises on the first day of say she
why did i sign up for this
hum
it's almost inevitable
and it might be
essentially unanswerable in its own terms
the search goes on after posing those two question says
fashion is pretty difficult
is difficult to stay in our seat dealing with painful legs
painful mind
listening to the loop of our thoughts continually calling round hound and round
i'm sure we all know that is sick while it's like
i couldn't get rid of that idea of a hamburger you know that was one of those loops
it's difficult with sometimes difficult to accepting the various emotions that come up
it's difficult to settling ourself on herself without getting caught by emotion thought or painful legs
and without becoming attached to any of the nice states of mind that might occasionally appear need to appear
ah and these notice them as they as they do as they appear ah don't know how to get stuck on them but
whatever difficult to you're having difficulty is not seamless
the state of mind one seeks in and is no special state of mind
when we read about meditation it's very intriguing
we lured into this activity hoping to reach nirvana
that's a very common ha
it's it's that's the carried on the stick
ha
so we're learning to say activity hoping to reach nirvana
nirvana is the pain in our legs
he says sorry
sorry to give you this
this difficult truth to absorb

so it's natural and precision to look for something special to bring home here is talking about kidding bro hugs recession says we sit for a week
and say
what happened or we sit for a week and go home and our partners insist what happened to her
what was it like
hand
nothing happened you can't say what happened and you certainly can say what it was like
because you don't remember and it's not like anything else
it all went by in a moment
what did i get after seven days
nothing just painful legs does not actually
i would maybe take issue with that
i think that what happens and you may find it when you go outside ah
after lunch
is that there's a quickening
have your senses and your awareness
it's easier to perceive that
the glow of things
or the subtle
ah but amazing life of everything in terms that you mean a be able to define
but you can see it
one of the things i remember from
below is a fee and is just
coming out and lying on the lawn here
you know which is not something i do a lot ah and like line and one me
my face kind of
grass level
and just seeing that there was a whole universe there
so i don't have that special or not special
but something about the activity of session enabled me to enter that perception

certain cause i says this is seven days of letting go
of allowing whatever state of mind is to be present
it's not chasing away evil thoughts that covering good thoughts not grasping wonderful states of mind not rejecting painful states of mind
just being present with whatever is present that's all
the most difficult thing of all is just to stay in your seat
that's what he found in his first machine and that's often what we experience
the hardest thing is to stay in receipt
so we have these two questions
first why do we do this
he then we start to sit
we instinctively know why
think that's what i was are experiencing when i went into the
zillow that that first evening in nineteen eighty four is like
i knew was i wanted to be part of this
ha which is beyond since it's beyond our reasoning but somewhere we know
when we start to reason about it
we don't know anymore

we tried to match her reasoning with our knowing and it brings up this question why especially when we get into a difficult spot
it's like taking a boat ride
we know that we enjoy going out in the boat
now that's that's fun and let a big storm comes up
pretty soon
the boats leaning over and the sales starting to rip and the waves are coming over the side can we say why did we ever do this
but that doesn't help
that's not the real question is which says a real question is how do i deal with this
ah
that's true of a whole life and that's what we're learning
that's what we have the ability to learn in sixteen is
how do i deal with this out of idea with these
you may have difficulties that are completely of my own doing no one forced me to sit here
hi thought it was good idea on some intuitive level level
ah which i may have forgot right now i may have forgotten why i thought that was a good idea ah but the question is
i can leave
or i can figure out how to deal with this
sajjan says in the series with gun i've spoken of this lot lately and he spoke of is always he said how is the practice question
why is valid but it's secondary to hell
take your life for example
why was i born
he says it doesn't matter
here you are
the bill question is
how do i live in this life

that was the question that brought me to practice
hum
there was the element of why am i here
but really the fundamental question was
accepting the fact that i'm here how do i live what do i do
how do i deal with this situation
in services we hold this question of how
that is continuous practice
that is the call on of your life
so continuous practice is just
really
keeping how either in the back or the front of your mind

just occasionally someone will ask me
how can i be a good zen student
in very real invariably i say just keep the question it's a great question
how do i do what's in front of me
how do i practice moment moment that is what we learn in sushi what's great about sixteen is it's not
one beta thousand and we're off to the next activity of our life but
yes after the first period of zazen and kenyan
the bell rings and we sit down and we do it again
and we carry that mind when we're when we're eating our meals in or yorkie fashion were still sitting
and so we have the the opportunity to practice moment by moment and we see
you know we can see we either settle into that moment with some friends we do or we see how compelling the message is
get me out of here
you get me out of here he said this is ah
is it

problem isn't something else he said is the experience is
sometimes one of
i can stay
can i can go
can you just pinned to the your pin to the moment by that

when we said he says we harmonized body and mind with the universe without discriminating without picking and choosing
without picking and choosing
what what's wonderful and sixteen is
ha
we just
we don't know what food is gonna be offered to us necessarily
we just accept what's offered an army is dead
our friends have cooked this food and served it to us
and we don't pick and choose
we just accept it
and the same thing is true were amazed at the universe's selected this moment to offer us we will find a way to accept it

how can we keep the mind
the heart and all the other satellites in harmony
the world is in he says the world is in a terrible state in a state of terrible unrest in getting worse all the time i'm not sure it's getting worse over time but
i'm not tryna it's getting better either the hon
in certain respects it's always been like this
the world the mind our mind should be working for the sake of humanity not for its own satisfaction or it shouldn't be working for the sake of of ah beaks not just humanity but ah
animals and plants and rivers and rocks and streams

we sit up straight harmonizing call this in one act
so when you pick up a cup of tea
pick up cup with both hands
ah
great the key
with no separation between you the cup and the t
the cup is not an object
the t is not an object
there are no objects
does this is the
the message of session is
there are no object is just complete subjectivity
everything that we see or do his part of us
that includes right now though
fourteen of you fourteen of us on the screen
you are objects of my mind i'm objects of your mind
and even though we're separated by distance we're we're working together

the socha says when we sit size and we bring the whole world into comedy this is called saving or beaks

as long as individuals are out of balance
the world would be our belts
in order to bring the world into balance we start with ourselves this is our way of saving beaks
this is what i would say this is what ah in the platform sutra
the sixth ancestor says his his bodhisattva vow
president saying sent in are numberless i vow to save them he says sentient beings of my mind are numberless i vowed to save to all
ah
everything
everyone that we see a cent in been of our mind
it's not just
you're not talking about
multiple personality disorder here ah beer
recognizing that
the images of each other and have having our mind and so do the images of our past and conceivably of our future
ah
my mind
contains me at certain moments
they come to memory of ah
going back to childhood come back early hundred
my daughter sophie is visiting us
ah for couple days now she came last night we had dinner
and she was team
she's tried remember the the restaurants that we had when we went out to a restaurant how many have you been have you any have you been to a restaurant
what a remarkably ordinary experience it's like in fact i forgot this was really weird to be sitting in a restaurant with people ah missouri arena ice the waiters wear masks harm
and we don't really pleasant meal on tubes remembering the play mississippi's to go during her childhood here in berkeley and then of course
that through me
all the way back through me back
sixty five years
remembering the particular restaurant said
we use to
patronize when i was a kid and my parents took me too
and then trying to remember
what and what were the dishes that i had what what what did i usually eat at those restaurants and ha then thinking
that i even had some
taste memory
have some of those foods
hensel the that sent in being that five year old seven year old kid
this momentary a lot momentarily alive again
so it's good to look at the in beans of our own mind but it's also good to recognized that that mind is not
limited by this
have a lot of skin and bone
that that we are
creatures of each other's minds as well
and what we're doing in says sheen he is practicing together a practicing by ourself to get
this is our way of saving being sentient beings
and this is what beer
doing here today
so i think i will stop there
and leave time for questions and discussion and you may have particular you have particular questions of of form hug or
how we do things please please ask those
so it made this call on people who raise your hands digitally your razor ends in person
or you conclude or in question in the chat box to and all i ask scared
so please feel free

penelope in lp
meet you
i still have a question that i'm working with these days i have them quite serious back pain this isn't fully diagnose scared and wherein in the process of that but it's quite it's not a muted kind of painted of it
can be enormously stabbing and when it happens it takes my foe
meditation feels like a cause at that moment out the window and i i know how to i i trained myself and been taught to work with minor pain and tracking it and boosting with it but this this field
seconds in a whole other cosmos and i wondered if you have
thoughts about that what have you been doing
ah i i don't try to meditate at that pump because i can't i i entered my simply can't do so i take i take my pain killer medications and i lie down with the healing cleared in a high ointment ten hope that it will stop spasm ming
that's what i've been doing
when asap and well
what experience i've had 'em there's certain kinds of please i was seeing this the other day certain kind of pain i just
kind of brushes away any kind of technique or concentration than than you might have sweetening ah
suddenly i had that with with a kidney stone once
there's just no way
to get an out this be
can
another example though is
ha i guess got two thousand and twenty one years ago i had sepsis i had either infection that became septic and i went into septic shock that it was you know was really touch and go ah and it was extremely
half of my body was just it to say on fire i can really remember ah
but i was in the icu
and ah
i was
try to talk to lori
and said you know i don't think i could do this
and she said you don't have a choice
and she then she said
you should just take it one breath at a time
and
that was just breathing that was in meditation and what i said to her it ah an idea it was okay but i'm gonna grown
and you know if i think of it now i think in a way that was an attempt to kind of align myself with to pay
bridges back who did that for hours
can i don't know how you know it's like the clock was across the wall and
you know a minute was an hour
and in that case they couldn't give me painkillers
that was part of the problem because it would suppress my already suppressed system but
fingers we get through this or we don't
we get through it in some way we don't know
or we'd become unconscious or we die
ah
i made a talking with are you know you if i have as if a suggestion for you if if that would be okay talk the clay taylor
have you met clay he comes to the more the and the morning yeah taught the clay just see if you can talk to him because he's dealt with intense chronic pain now offers fifteen or twenty years
yeah from being this incredibly vigorous athletic guy young guy
he had some he added
something happened to his back that there's never fully diagnosed but he has to deal with it every minute
to talk to clay
yeah
yeah i i must say as a result of this i i i'm hoping this would have been reducing have been diagnosed yet their way but i bowed deeply to people who have chronic pain like clay cause i know that he has that i i bow because the were in
when this happens it's just
it's on another plane of existence on a saw is as people stay and handle it and and i don't become homicidal or suicidal is already quite there i think miraculous thing i think little by little he you know one thing that one
does ears
whatever there's a space to do some
an investigation of how you know take that space however small it is here here and thank you simply

your muted knew that
thank you there's a question in the chat box is can hear our way of walking in the world we strive to make it so
got interesting question
ah

kenyan is is kind of ritualized way of walking
but
you know the way we do it is the very slow henry 's article and
mindful a hello
microcosmic level you know mindful of the
the way your muscles and joints work etc ah but
we can be mindful of in our
everyday walking
ha
the thing about walking in the world is it calls for a different sort of awareness
ha in the zendo it's day
or you know on the grounds of a monastery it's a safe place it's a it's a place with fewer distractions ah you know all we really need to pay attention to his
what is right in front of us on the ground
whereas we're all walking in the world ah we have to didn't on mindfulness is of a different sort
her mindfulness is in the car the mindfulness has to have the capacity of scanning
so think about driving can driving the a meditation
you know driving is
is an amazingly complex activity
and your awareness in your muscular your physical coordination and ah sensory awareness is so immediate an integral ha and that's another kind of mindfulness
what we don't want on we we want to really
be moment by moment present ah you're driving you don't wanna
make the effort to step back and look at the nature of awareness or look at every muscular move you can make that sleep
approach to driving i would say the same thing would be true of walking in the world so except that the conditions of walking in the world are slightly different than the conditions of a king
hensel you just call it a different
if the different modality of walking meditation
but the ultimate idea which is what sojourner she's talking about in his pieces continuous practice which means continually bringing yourself to each moment with what is appropriate
thank you yoni would you like to read and as
ios on
for more of a comment on i gently asked myself why am i was with was and am i also asked that with all the most activities also
the profit from that and like don't like feel very connected to like work and on something i i don't all get out of zazen verse get out of those are other activities is that ultimately i find it though those activities and
kind of doing cause i'm afraid of something
and zazen and i feel like i'm doing because i'm curious about something i think fear still comes up but that's not the motivating force
for thousand and i yeah just think it's interesting some just wanted to share that
that is interesting you know i mean a lot of this is the pivot point of the heart sutra
ah
somewhere towards middle or says
ah after listing all the different is different steps sets of dharmas ah
is he says no hindrances without any without hindrances no fears exist
and
so for me
the point of the heart sutra is cultivating of fearlessness
and one of the things that we can we might experience in size in ah
is
had a gross or subtle level to experience in her fears that a gross or subtle level and learning
bit by bit learning the teaser states of mind that themselves are not substantial
but you can only learn that by
i think the building of trust
in part of the practice of sashimi is
to build trust trusting yourself
trust in san
the in this path a practice that has been laid out for twenty five hundred years
and
sometimes than the things that may appear pete fearful
fall away
we don't have to do something
necessarily to transform them they transform in this house

thank you
evan would you like to a new yourself and ask a question

oh
i wanted to ask about to her
two aspects of form that we do all the time but i've never really spoken about and that is cash-out and bowing you
that's a great question hum
i should that's you ever be a whole lecture actually ah on towards the end of it during the machine but arm

there's so many ways of contemplating it
actually maybe say little more but when your question is
oh
i guess
something about
why why we do it or like
but not a year ago so i guess kind of
well
without getting into a long exposition
this is telling meet each other
ah
you put your hands guy showed bell i did the same we meet at the bottom of that now
and
it's a mode of
you know it's is to form for
we spent full acknowledgement and connection
ah it's not so different from shaking hands
but it has
it has a whole range of symbolic
ah meaning bringing of her our hands together ah
sometimes this is framed as the meeting of the relative in the absolute
ah have they're very different there's there's lots of the different manifestations of bow and i'll forgive when but we do service i'll give some brief instruction began our gives you the instruction is the is in the realm of how nah
so much in the realm of why but why is interesting
ah
how
enables us to enter the bow
with our body and mind
and
you know i have i've espoused in my mind ah you know of teachers and friends over the years that i can fit did we see them
ah how they bow and find myself imitating that with my body
and the senses it's like the way you play music we one plays music
ah
one learns
from the recording of from the teacher from observing
a person respect physically how to do something and then gradually one cantor's that in the same thing is true the same bow is parallel with say
the way with the physically the way we said which is i said is bowing gotcha was a murderer
ah you know it's a
ah
a spiritual gesture
and when we create that alignment of bowing
we're in acting and even though i'm an and even i can't say exactly what's happening or why but i do it with considerable mindfulness
so i'm let me think further on that and maybe that's one of the lectures on your during ah speciality a in a couple weeks okay
nathan would you'd like to ask your question as i see jack's se dan waving his hand to so nasal first
hum
the question is does does our experience of doesn't matter
and i asked because i was i was reading
oh i was re-reading routine was a description of zaza and he talks about posture and on aiming the body
in a way that you can't know that you're achieving the aim and that that's the point
and that i think says something in there to the effect of we can be doing zazen without knowing that we're doing and that to certain extent maybe by application our conscious minds experience of this doesn't matter very much on had i was re-reading that because
i've struggled a lot with
i don't know vigilance are you know about my own minds sort of variation of what's happening when i'm when i'm sitting and this sort of questioning am i doing it at my own business are we doing this properly as this you know about that the thinking ends up being a sort of better cognition about like salsa
happening and ends ah a i was curious your thoughts on
does or which which i find it exceedingly tedious i i should say oh does it doesn't matter does my experience of this matter or as the fact that i'm aiming my body towards this ideal and continuing to do it even though i find it frustrating hum of the most important thing

i'm hearing a different question ah
the question of i think you asked first doesn't matter because doing zazen manner and then later you said does my experience of zazen matter those are really different questions
ah to be ah the first question was does the experience better i can find said that i could harm

if you are evaluating it
ah
you're gonna get caught in that loop
and the question it comes down to how question
how can you set aside the evaluation
ah
and at the same time
if your intention is the intention of zazen saws it is working
kenneth in the bowels of reality there ah whether you are
whether you know that that it's you know that you have any experience or not so
if we have sleep sleepy eyes and for is constantly nodding out every second we we try to wake up but it's still the activity exhausted because it's the activity as the moment that we are we are experiencing
ha
and
i think that when one is it's good you that evaluating or judge in mind that is not different from the mind who says in
and with any of with any of these circumstances
we have to admit to impermanence
and
allow them to move on
that's question how to how do i do that
and that may take you another twenty years
but it won't be there all the time i guarantee that he changes you know at site
ah
as a night i am coming to the point where i'm repeating myself have a lot and
it's a and one hand limited imagination the other hand well maybe this is kind of core principles for me ah in forgot to thingie dogan says the dharma and the jasmine of speaking of is not learning meditation it is simply the dharma gate
of repose in bliss
and ah you know i think for them first and use my practice i felt
okay i'm ready for this and less wears his repose it lists
ha
even though there were moments that were there were quite wonderful ah
and
it's a just say it's much easier for me now zazen when i start and i sit down it's almost immediately a very restful clear state of mind and
that just happened i could make it happen you're not gonna make this happen so just trust trust in zazi
it's the most important thing
thank you with time for one more maybe i let her down at his hands up
yesterday on please on mute yourself

i wanted it
compared with nathan very deep questions is a question of form in session i've noticed in the first service of this of the day we bound nine times
financial yeah and then other times we bow three
what's the question
why
a how the answer how we know if this one is why know there's a why ah
my understanding
he is the ads

this this is not something that you don't usually find this in japan
for service is usually some pie ah three bows ha for certain kinds of services you might do more
i think suitable for she divert his stories one is that
ah people were asking them questions about
while we bow three times
and you know so he decided to have people bound nine times
and it's another way of meeting the that perhaps he was meeting people's resistance to ballon
ah it's another way perhaps to ah
amplifier humility
the active now in his lower right ourselves
i'm
so

i will try to dig up
more concrete evidence that but it's definitely it was definitely is
innovation for us
nowhere i've been in japan to they do nine bows
during service
he do it for other rituals
because that to answer your question
well i think we need to end and will end with the for vows which up there and we'll have time from we will have more time for discussion ah towards the end of the day ah to free discussion
so thank you very